Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by G1GACANN0N » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:11 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:I think it's a combination of wanting it distanced from the edited releases, as well as the song not being suited to an extended length of 1:50.
G1GACANN0N wrote:Also every end credit song on the orange bricks AND Kai sucks.
Boku-tachi wa Tenshi Datta, ending #2, is probably one of my favorite DBZ songs.
Ah forgot about that one, yeah that is a rocking tune. This should've been used on Kai for sure. The rest sounds like baby music though.

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Post by Vegard Aune » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:11 pm

G1GACANN0N wrote:DVD is a worthless abomination compared to Blu-ray. If you think otherwise then get a better TV and surround sound system.
You know, if every DVD on the market looked like, say, Studio Ghibli's Japanese DVD-releases then I might agree with you, (Seriously, I don't know what went wrong with those things, but movies with animation-quality this high should not be presented in as shoddy quality as the left side image here... Especially considering how the US releases seem to look roughly 20 times better) but while a well-encoded BluRay does indeed blow any DVD out of the water in terms of quality, I've still seen some pretty damn gorgeous DVD-transfers over the years.

Oh and also I saw some talk about 4k here... Most useless innovation ever if you ask me. I've seen a 1080p BluRay used for a projection in a freaking movie-theater, and the only reason I even know that's what they used, is because I just walked over to the people arranging the screening in question afterwards and was like "Say, I noticed that there were no subtitles for the first minute... By any chance were you playing this off a BluRay disc or something?". Quality-wise, it was indistinguishable from any other theatrical presentation I've seen. And I was sitting on like, the third row, so I was pretty close to the screen at the time too. So yeah, far as I'm concerned, 1080p is already such high quality that going any higher would just be a waste of resources.

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Post by eledoremassis02 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:24 pm

Vegard Aune wrote: You know, if every DVD on the market looked like, say, Studio Ghibli's Japanese DVD-releases then I might agree with you,
That looks like a laser disc tranpher (quite common with older films). My copy of Howles moving castle doesn't look too bad :D

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Post by KingofWisdom » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:50 am

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Why does funimation treat dbz like shit and this is coming from a dub fan. I mean they don't fuck around with yu yu hakusho, fullmetal alchemist, and one piece releases but with dbz they always fuck something up with their releases.
Probably because it's so readily accepted by the mass market, and the people who are more informed or knowledgeable are a vocal minority among the North American Dragon Ball Z fanbase. We also know that it's expensive to properly remaster DBZ, so these faux-remasters that they pump out cost less money to make and sell better too.
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Post by TheAldella » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:07 am

KingofWisdom wrote:
JEFFMAN219 wrote:Why does funimation treat dbz like shit and this is coming from a dub fan. I mean they don't fuck around with yu yu hakusho, fullmetal alchemist, and one piece releases but with dbz they always fuck something up with their releases.
Probably because it's so readily accepted by the mass market, and the people who are more informed or knowledgeable are a vocal minority among the North American Dragon Ball Z fanbase. We also know that it's expensive to properly remaster DBZ, so these faux-remasters that they pump out cost less money to make and sell better too.
They oughtta use the money they make off of these to gear towards the level sets XD
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Post by KingofWisdom » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:03 am

I'm starting to wonder if the trailer we saw was purposely made to lower our expectations, and by the time an official trailer is released, the footage will actually look decent. It would sorta explain why the video was taken down. It doesn't make much sense, now that I think about it, that the trailer would be uploaded early in the first place. Surely the folks at FUNimation would know we'd rip it a new asshole.

Or maybe I'm still in shock that this is a genuine product.
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Post by Roland_ELoG » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:29 am

On the one hand, it's shockingly bad. On the other hand... Classic FUnimation.

The best part will be when the rest of Kai is released while this Blu-ray is still coming out, so then people won't want to buy either of them. Classic FUnimation.
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Post by MarcFBR » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:45 am

Making a product that will sell far more than anyone can imagine while the fans are whining about it.

Classic Funimation.
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Post by Vegard Aune » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:49 am

eledoremassis02 wrote:
Vegard Aune wrote: You know, if every DVD on the market looked like, say, Studio Ghibli's Japanese DVD-releases then I might agree with you,
That looks like a laser disc tranpher (quite common with older films). My copy of Howles moving castle doesn't look too bad :D

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Possibly. Still though, I've seen comparisons between the Japanese and American DVDs for those older Ghibli-films, (or specifically Princess Mononoke) and the US version just looked better in pretty much every way... And even that Howl-screenshot still has that preposterously large black border around the entire picture. Seriously what is up with that? That border is so large that even taking TV-overscan into account, the actual animation still doesn't cover the whole screen. Well at least on the TVs that I've tried playing these DVDs on.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:56 am

MarcFBR wrote:Making a product that will sell far more than anyone can imagine while the fans are whining about it.
Classic Nintendo.
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:57 am

KingofWisdom wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the trailer we saw was purposely made to lower our expectations, and by the time an official trailer is released, the footage will actually look decent. It would sorta explain why the video was taken down. It doesn't make much sense, now that I think about it, that the trailer would be uploaded early in the first place. Surely the folks at FUNimation would know we'd rip it a new asshole.

Or maybe I'm still in shock that this is a genuine product.
I guess we'll find out once a higher quality trailer is released.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:50 am

If this release fails like the Level Sets did, then I guess this will be it for DBZ in US.

I think the only hope for a proper release now would be Toei re-releasing the whole series in Blu-Ray. FUNi tried to do a proper release, and it failed.
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:13 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If this release fails like the Level Sets did, then I guess this will be it for DBZ in US.

I think the only hope for a proper release now would be Toei re-releasing the whole series in Blu-Ray. FUNi tried to do a proper release, and it failed.
Wasn't the Dbox just touched up without any color corrections? Kai on the other hand is soft, dvnr'd, with color corrections and most of the time I like the color corrections. If we could get the color corrections minus the dvnr I'd be a happy camper.

I know the level sets were slightly dark a little too dark if you ask me and with crushed blacks, the dbox was too bright but no crushed blacks, kai seemed great but it had the dvnr problem...

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Post by qjz123 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:19 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If this release fails like the Level Sets did, then I guess this will be it for DBZ in US.
The orange bricks continue to sell extremely well for Funimation even outselling a lot of their newer anime titles Dragon ball z's run of success in the US is far from over, and with these blu rays only costing a couple of dollars more than their dvd variants how could they not be successful.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I think the only hope for a proper release now would be Toei re-releasing the whole series in Blu-Ray. FUNi tried to do a proper release, and it failed.
I doubt we'll ever see a blu ray release of the original DBZ from Toei. They most likely consider Kai to be their blu ray release of the series. They went through the trouble of removing all the filler and having the original Va's completely redo their lines. A project that Toei is still working on.
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:27 am

I guess Funimation works like Intels ticktock system, where as the orange bricks were the tick and the dragon box and levels were the tock, we're now in the tick, tock should be around 2016-2017 when these are done.

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Post by ect5150 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:53 am

TheAldella wrote:They oughtta use the money they make off of these to gear towards the level sets XD
I thought someone said they did that with the Orange Bricks and DBoxes. Profit margins were higher form the Orange Bricks and they used that to leverage the DBox limited release. I think there is a good chance they'd pull that again for "us" hardcore fans. And why not? There is a chance some of us would double dip and a small chance Toei might remaster the series on Bluray and they can release those as the import.

My great hope is that Toei would do it, because the sub fans would get original credits, NEP, etc... the works! Aparently, FUNI doesn't have next episode preview audio tracks (or something like that) and they always use the same opening sequence, even if it didn't originally show with a certain episode. I know I am nitpicking here, but that would be the best of all worlds for sub fans.
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Post by Big Momma » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:16 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote: Because they go to the wrong people. I guarantee you if they did a poll only for the members of Kanzenshuu wed have gotten a Level quality release in 4:3 and nobody would be complaining right now. They are just doing a bluray orange brick with this cause it sold because to a lot of fans it was "OMG! DBZ SEASON SETS! GIMME!" Its just a flawed bluray of a already flawed product we already got years ago.
They didn't go to the "wrong" people. They advertised the poll to everyone who follows them on social media, aka, everyone who would buy this and/or anything else from them. The members of this forum make up hardly a fraction of that.
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Post by Zenkai » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:25 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote: Wasn't the Dbox just touched up without any color corrections?
The Dragon Boxes have a red/pink tint.

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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:05 pm

Aoi wrote:1. Want to hear the Japanese track in 5.1 Stereo (it's not 6.1, but it's leagues ahead of the Mono track on DVD)
I can guarantee that there is absolutely no possibility to do 5.1 mix of Japanese track. Hell, there is no possibility to do it in stereo! They would need to produce totally new audio track by using the first generation source of voices, sfx and music. This is only marketing.

We are talking mostly about picture quality but believe me - all audio tracks with Japanese music are even worse...

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:21 pm

Am I missing something? I don't see anything wrong with the release. It just feels to me that people wanted this to fail from the start especially when it was announced to be cropped.

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