Are Birusu And SSJG Goku Stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto?

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Re: Are Birusu And SSJG Goku Stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:35 pm

hleV wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It still doesn't make the statement being untrustworthy a fact. It's your opinion that it's untrustworthy, and it's mine opinion that it's not.
Yes. It's for you to decide whether a contradictory statement is trustworthy or not. Just don't go around claiming that it's not contradictory at all and is definitely trustworthy.
Same goes for you for the opposite then.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Are Birusu And SSJG Goku Stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:38 pm

The statement is still trustworthy because the intent was to point out that Beers is stronger than everyone in the history of Z. Oh no, a surprise twist contradicts it! So what? Beers is still stronger than everyone else =/.
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Re: Are Birusu And SSJG Goku Stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto

Post by hleV » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:45 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:The statement is still trustworthy because the intent was to point out that Beers is stronger than everyone in the history of Z. Oh no, a surprise twist contradicts it! So what? Beers is still stronger than everyone else =/.
You have an opinion. That's great.
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Re: Are Birusu And SSJG Goku Stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:48 pm

hleV wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:The statement is still trustworthy because the intent was to point out that Beers is stronger than everyone in the history of Z. Oh no, a surprise twist contradicts it! So what? Beers is still stronger than everyone else =/.
You have an opinion. That's great.
Sigh... you know what whatever. At least you aren't stating Super Vegetto > Beers is a fact.
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Re: Are Birusu And SSJG Goku Stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto

Post by dario03 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:17 pm

I would just view the statement as leaving out assumed points. It's like how I'm on some MMA forums and people will talk about who the greatest of all time is (GOAT). When someone says something like Anderson Silva is the GOAT, everybody knows they actually mean Anderson Silva is the greatest of all time up until now, or greatest in the history of the sport up until now or whatever. They don't add in clarification to exclude fighters that will come in the future or fighters that are currently fighting but haven't shown to be the GOAT yet. So I would just interpret that line to mean that Bils is the strongest so far and since Whis doesn't show his power and they don't even mention his power till the end it seems fine to me.
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Re: Are Birusu And SSJG Goku Stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:20 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
hleV wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:The statement is still trustworthy because the intent was to point out that Beers is stronger than everyone in the history of Z. Oh no, a surprise twist contradicts it! So what? Beers is still stronger than everyone else =/.
You have an opinion. That's great.
Sigh... you know what whatever. At least you aren't stating Super Vegetto > Beers is a fact.
Still. It's kinda obvious that was excluding Whis. How is this make the statement invalid is beyond me
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Re: Are Birusu And SSJG Goku Stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto

Post by Kaboom » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:16 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm not fine with people disregarding something because they are Mr. Boohoo Butthurt. Honestly, this the only reason you want to disregard the statement. Sure, you can claim it's contradicted by Whis being stronger than Beers, but that doesn't change the fact that Beers was intended to be stronger than everyone else.
Alright, the thread was already pretty much nothing but pointless semantics, but now it's getting juvenile too. Anything worth saying has been said, so I think we're done here.
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