Absolon EP 2

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:45 pm

If its indeed the case and he did it to get even, well...two can play that game. Ill see if I can get confirmation.
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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by TheAldella » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:31 pm

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You should work for toeinanimation
this is better than the real one but a little short
First off, best opening scene in the history of anime
And some utubers wonder why I mention Kanzenshuu as a better place to converse than in the youtube videos. This is why. Idiotic fans who claim they are hardcore and know everything when they clearly don't. I still learn something new every day. These people think they are god. If they actually understood the series, they would know what's wrong with this. But they seem to be into the stereotypes than the actual series.
If this single guy worked on fight scenes, we'd have a lot better fights in movies than what they gave us with SSG Goku vs Bills, at the very least.
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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by Big Momma » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:15 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I wanna know why this episode took as long as it did. It was just primarily fighting, no real story whatsoever.

It's a lot more time-consuming to animate fighting as opposed to characters talking and "story".



The "story" itself is just your typical AF-crap...which is probably why it's so popular, but the guy has talent, nonetheless. For someone who is (I'm guessing) self-taught, his animation/effects aren't bad. A little stiff/choppy at times, but pretty good.
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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:32 pm

Everyone's a critic.

A huge fan does a fully animated episode which probably took him months for fans of DBZ and won't even even get paid for it and all people are doing here is bitching about it and being nitpicky.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by Scarz » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:39 pm

Bullza wrote:Everyone's a critic.

A huge fan does a fully animated episode which probably took him months for fans of DBZ and won't even even get paid for it and all people are doing here is bitching about it and being nitpicky.
Just because it's a free fan made project does not mean it's immune to criticism.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:41 pm

Bullza wrote:Everyone's a critic.

A huge fan does a fully animated episode which probably took him months for fans of DBZ and won't even even get paid for it and all people are doing here is bitching about it and being nitpicky.
So because he made an animation for FREE...we can't say his plot sucks? We can't say his animation doesn't look DBZ(look like Street Fighter) and the character design suck? Other fans do animation as well can get heat from it. This is no exception. I guess since TFS they work for free I can't complain if they make a bad joke.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:07 pm

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Bullza wrote:Everyone's a critic.

A huge fan does a fully animated episode which probably took him months for fans of DBZ and won't even even get paid for it and all people are doing here is bitching about it and being nitpicky.
So because he made an animation for FREE...we can't say his plot sucks? We can't say his animation doesn't look DBZ(look like Street Fighter) and the character design suck? Other fans do animation as well can get heat from it. This is no exception. I guess since TFS they work for free I can't complain if they make a bad joke.
Constructive criticism is fine but you guys here aren't doing that, you're just bitching about it when the show has had a mere two episodes. This isn't DBZ, it's not an anime, Toriyama isn't writing it, the person writing it isn't a writer.

People here are quoting other people's comments on youtube to bring the series down when it's irrelevant to the quality of the show. These people arn't hardcore nerds like people here they're just casual fans. If they think it's as good as DBZ or better than GT it's their opinion and GT is a laughablely poor show anyone.

There's people bitching about the show for things that MAY happen in the show. Who cares if Buu's in it, you don't know how that's gonna be explained. It's a fan created youtube short series, it's not important if there's a few inconsistencies. Dragon Ball had inconsistencies.

Toriyama couldn't even SSJ2.

Then there's that other guy who made me laugh because he thinks his generic saiyan creation was stolen when the only real similaritiy is the shoulder and a scar of which Bardock had a scar on his left cheek aswell.

It's the same DBM, everytime I see a new page there's people complaining on it. It's been that way for years.

I don't think I know any fanbase that bitchs more than this one.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:13 pm

People here are quoting other people's comments on youtube to bring the series down when it's irrelevant to the quality of the show. These people arn't hardcore nerds like people here they're just casual fans. If they think it's as good as DBZ or better than GT it's their opinion and GT is a laughablely poor show anyone.
Saying this is MORE "canon" than GT is not an opinion. It's pure ignorant and dumb. People already talked about the show. We gave good bad reviews of it(Plot, Design, Dead animation, and loud music). So I don't know why you igored those post or say we did not give good criticism
There's people bitching about the show for things that MAY happen in the show. Who cares if Buu's in it, you don't know how that's gonna be explained. It's a fan created youtube short series, it's not important if there's a few inconsistencies. Dragon Ball had inconsistencies.


It's not that. It's the fact that the creator is a HUGE asshole cocky S.O.B. I'm sorry but it's true. Let's say you say one bad thing about the Fan Animation. You will be blocked from his channel. I told him I don't like how the music is super loud and the character design look off. I got blocked. There is no explanation for a kaioken x1000 Oob.

It's the same DBM, everytime I see a new page there's people complaining on it. It's been that way for years.
DBM hasn't got complaints in 4 pages :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:39 pm

I can't use the quotes properly from PS3 so this will have to do.

1. If people want to think this is more canon then GT then why does it matter when neither are canon anyway. You're looking as these people as if they're hardcore fans and they aren't. That's the problem with people here, there's too many elitists here who treat the people on youtube as ignorant trash because they don't know all the details about a cartoon.

Dead animation, DBZ had tons of it, anime in general has tons of it. There was more animation in the fighting here than anything in Z.

Loud music, yes it did and was later fixed.

The plot sucks....it's been 2 episodes. DBZ didn't have a great plot in it's first 2 episodes. These episodes aren't even as long as DBZ episodes.

2. I made a comment once saying the music was loud, it was a top comment for a couple days. I wasn't blocked.

No explanation for Kaioken x1000 Uub...why does there need to be? DBZ didn't explain most things, it didn't explain hardly anything Frieza so what does it matter if Uub can pull off a large Kaioken in a fantasy cartoon? It doesn't matter, it's nitpicking.

4. Not even close. This is a fanbase that complains about other fans who may not know as much. Complain about fan created works. Argue over fictional power levels. Argue about dubs, mistranslations, censoring, DVD's, the music. Anything that doesn't do the series 100% justice gets whined upon.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:51 pm

1. If people want to think this is more canon then GT then why does it matter when neither are canon anyway. You're looking as these people as if they're hardcore fans and they aren't. That's the problem with people here, there's too many elitists here who treat the people on youtube as ignorant trash because they don't know all the details about a cartoon.
I been making these remarks BEFORE I was a hardcore fan. DB has no define canon you don't say "GT is non canon". I'm saying that they're ignorant because they think a FAN ANIMATION is more canon than an official work. Saying this is a TRUE sequel to DBZ not "that gt garbage". Where clearly it's GT at the beginning of Episode 1.
Dead animation, DBZ had tons of it, anime in general has tons of it. There was more animation in the fighting here than anything in Z.
I mean everything looked dead. Not just the models. Look very gloomy and the character design look like street fighters character.
The plot sucks....it's been 2 episodes. DBZ didn't have a great plot in it's first 2 episodes. These episodes aren't even as long as DBZ episodes.
DBZ plot after two episodes was decent to be honest. I'm saying people have gave reasons to complain for the plot(Meeting him on a different website such as Deviart)
2. I made a comment once saying the music was loud, it was a top comment for a couple days. I wasn't blocked.
Good for you? He still blocks people who say anything negative.
No explanation for Kaioken x1000 Uub...why does there need to be? DBZ didn't explain most things, it didn't explain hardly anything Freeza so what does it matter if Uub can pull off a large Kaioken in a fantasy cartoon? It doesn't matter, it's nitpicking.
Kaiokenx1000 Oob. Btw you took my "no explanation" for Oob to have that to serious. I meant as in there is no logic(Yes DBZ and even GT has it own set of logic). Seeing as Kaioken x1000 is above SSj3 power. Oob body should blow up. DBZ did explain most things and explain the rest in guidebooks. In fact anything important got an explanation. It's not nitpicking.
4. Not even close. This is a fanbase that complains about other fans who may not know as much. Complain about fan created works. Argue over fictional power levels. Argue about dubs, mistranslations, censoring, DVD's, the music. Anything that doesn't do the series 100% justice gets whined upon.


You never seen a GodZella fanbase complain have you? You never seen Godfather or Young and the restless fans complain have you? There are much worst fanbase than Z. I gave you 8. Research them. See how back they're for yourself. Hell I even thought the same thing as you. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=24393. Just look at this topic and see for yourself.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:13 pm

1. Just because they say it's more canon than GT doesn't mean they truly believe it. Even if it is official it's still non canon. Signalling out a few people out of thousands is pointless. There's people who say GT is canon.

It still doesn't matter, what their opinions are has nothing to do with the show. Putting this down because some people like it as much as Z is petty.

2. It's just following a darker tone than Z that's all. The characters have also been made to have their own look that fits the animators unique vision of the universe. Complaining about that is like complaining about Batman or Joker from the Nolan movies not looking like their comic versions.

3. And this is decent for a fan created work written by someone who specialises in animation. There was nothing special about DBZ's first couple episodes.

4. Obviously not if I said something negative and wasn't blocked...

5. It is nitpicking. Guidebooks don't count, that's explanations for things outside of the show. Absalon has no guide books it has 2 10 or so minute episodes. If Uub goes Kaioken x1000 let him. King Kais planet was destroyed, it was magically back in Battle of Gods, that wasn't explained. Don't really care about either, it's trivial.

6. I'm a fan of Marvel and DC and they aren't remotely as bad. There was that DBZ x One Piece x Toriko episode. Instead of people being happy that not only is DBZ appearing in something and also getting a crossover, comments are full of people whining about how Goku would easily win.

The DBZ fanbase complain about the most trivial things.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by goku1234 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:46 pm

any update news on ep 3 yet?

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:15 pm

Bullza wrote:1. Just because they say it's more canon than GT doesn't mean they truly believe it. Even if it is official it's still non canon. Signalling out a few people out of thousands is pointless. There's people who say GT is canon.

It still doesn't matter, what their opinions are has nothing to do with the show. Putting this down because some people like it as much as Z is petty.

2. It's just following a darker tone than Z that's all. The characters have also been made to have their own look that fits the animators unique vision of the universe. Complaining about that is like complaining about Batman or Joker from the Nolan movies not looking like their comic versions.

3. And this is decent for a fan created work written by someone who specialises in animation. There was nothing special about DBZ's first couple episodes.

4. Obviously not if I said something negative and wasn't blocked...

5. It is nitpicking. Guidebooks don't count, that's explanations for things outside of the show. Absalon has no guide books it has 2 10 or so minute episodes. If Uub goes Kaioken x1000 let him. King Kais planet was destroyed, it was magically back in Battle of Gods, that wasn't explained. Don't really care about either, it's trivial.

6. I'm a fan of Marvel and DC and they aren't remotely as bad. There was that DBZ x One Piece x Toriko episode. Instead of people being happy that not only is DBZ appearing in something and also getting a crossover, comments are full of people whining about how Goku would easily win.

The DBZ fanbase complain about the most trivial things.
1. I'm not putting it down. I'm saying when we brought up fans it was because of something they said.

2. Looking dead and having dark animation is two different things.

3. I seen better animation(fan) by beginners. I seen better plot by a 9 year old.

4. Yes cause you count for the thousands of people who got block for saying a negative comment. I dare you to say something bad like bad music choice. You will be blocked.

5. Guidebooks do count. Even Toriyama used them(50x ssj).

6. I'm a Marvel fan. Trust me. Comic book fans are worst. Once again Godzilla, godfather, and young and restless. Look at their fanbase. Dbz is no where close to being bad. Just mis informed.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by ConfusedPhantom » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:42 am

I'm not a fan of the whole look of it. I understand why they did it, but I don't think the murky works for Dragon Ball. The animation is on the choppy side, though some of the action cuts looked alright. I'm kinda interested what they'd do with more streamlined designs (maybe with his own material, perhaps).

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by Ringworm128 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:29 pm

If you think the DB fanbase is the worst you obviously haven't seen that many fanbases.

As for Uub going Kaioken 1000X that's worth complaining about, it's another HUGE sign that this is just going to end up as another "who can get the most transformations and reach SSJMondoCool first" fest. Seriously I've said it before and I'l say it again, this is Generic AF Fanfiction The Animated Series.

As for the Nolan comparison, Nolan's Batman films were done with a lot more care. And Nolan's Batman movies were advertised as they're own thing, as far as I know this dude is trying to pass this off as a sequel to GT. It would be fine if he said "I want to make a super dark adaptation", but no this is supposed to be the 4th DB series everyone has been waiting for. It would be like if Shigeru Miyamoto called Twilight Princess "Wind Waker 2". Why do you think everyone loves Paper Mario while everyone hates Banjo Kazooie NnB? Because one was advertised as a spin off while the other was hyped up as a true sequel.

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Re: Absolon EP 2

Post by Big Momma » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:32 pm

Malik_DBNA wrote: Worse. AF MUGEN GAME FANFIC CRAP
I've never been more frustrated while playing a video game than when I faced Nightmare Brolly in Mugen. :lol:



The creator just posted on Facebook that he's supposedly gotten a request from Toei animation to "Add (the show) to their network". Not sure what that means, but it seems like a trap. The creator believes so, too, so he's being weary.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:36 pm

Big Momma wrote:
Malik_DBNA wrote: Worse. AF MUGEN GAME FANFIC CRAP
I've never been more frustrated while playing a video game than when I faced Nightmare Brolly in Mugen. :lol:



The creator just posted on Facebook that he's supposedly gotten a request from Toei animation to "Add (the show) to their network". Not sure what that means, but it seems like a trap. The creator believes so, too, so he's being weary.
Theres now a 3D fighting game MUGEN coming btw. Basically, get ready for Mugen's with DBZ characters using Tenkaichi and Raging Blast models.

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Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:19 am

According to the Mugen wiki Nightmare Broli is the result of Broli absorbing the soul of Sephiroth from FF7.

So does that mean Sephiroth is now part of DBA? Might as well be, not like they're trying to go the subtle route anyway

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Post by Big Momma » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:27 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote: Theres now a 3D fighting game MUGEN coming btw. Basically, get ready for Mugen's with DBZ characters using Tenkaichi and Raging Blast models.
That's seriously some amazing news. I can't wait :shock:
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Re: Absolon EP 2

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Big Momma wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote: Theres now a 3D fighting game MUGEN coming btw. Basically, get ready for Mugen's with DBZ characters using Tenkaichi and Raging Blast models.
That's seriously some amazing news. I can't wait :shock:
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