VegettoEX wrote:
I'm not saying that, overall as an individual and throughout everything I've ever said in my life, that I don't dislike the Faulconer Productions score and think it's an absolutely terrible piece of art that should not have been included as a part of the production it was included as a part of. That much is clear, especially for folks that have been following me for the 15 years that I've been running my site (well, not that Faulconer Productions had a score going back 15 years... but you get the point!).
VegettoEX wrote:
There are countless examples of this. I have these conversations on the forum. I have these conversations in person at conventions. We're coming from two completely different viewing experiences of what is, sure, underneath at the base level the exact same story (strong guy beats up other strong guy), but when it's not a common viewing experience, it's not the same conversation we're having.
When I talk to someone who watched the original Japanese version - or a faithful dub that kept appropriate dialog and even at least just an instrumental of "Unmei no Hi" - I know that, even if we interpret different things about the scene (for example, what does the bird represent?), the actual scene itself came across the exact same way to our brains for them to in turn start doing the extra work.
Okay, so now I think the argument is that the dub is bad, not because the music itself is bad or because it doesn't fit the show, but because it's caused people to refer to a version that differs in crucial aspects from the original when they talk about the show. That's a valid point, and if you'd expressed that from the start, we would've saved time. As you say, you spoke about this in a previous thread, but I can't remember the last time this was discussed.
Well, that's not such a big problem, and it's more personal as it doesn't affect the series per se, but my response is to that is that the two versions
don't differ in the two most crucial aspects. And that's the story and characters or at least for the most part. You still have Goku, Vegeta etc., and they still fight with other characters, form relationships etc. We can still discuss the progression of the plot, and how it builds tension, makes sense, doesn't make sense etc. I'm not going to argue with you when you say that the music is important to any show and sets the tone, and therefore the dub and the original
do have considerable differences. But if it's clear which version someone's talking about and it's a version you're not familiar with, you don't have to talk to them. And on this forum, we don't really have this problem because you've made a rule that it's always assumed that the version you're referring to is the original.
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