Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[goku1234]

[Gyt Kaliba]

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna like this artist I think. Count me in on the idea of keeping them on as the main series artist from here on (but it probably won't happen).

I particularly love the look on Goku's face.

[jjgp1112]

Great art, oh how I've missed you!

[Super Vegetto]

Wow, Goku looks amaizing and yet it's made so simple.

Can't wait to see fight with this art...

[dbzfan7]

Hooray the art is now awesome. Also if this was really just the Super Namek being absurdly powerful, then I hope he does fight Vegetto.

[Marco Polo]

For a minute I was confused because I forgot the previous chapter was a flashback

[hulkty]

The artwork is finally good again! The ONLY thing from making it perfect are Goku and the Namek's face in the first 2 panels.
Weird seeing SSj2 with that face...

[omegalucas]

The artwork is finally good again! The ONLY thing from making it perfect are Goku and the Namek's face in the first 2 panels.
Weird seeing SSj2 with that face...

Now that I think about it it's the eyes, he has the open eyes he usually only has in his normal state.
Still, awesome art

[TonyTheTiger]

I wonder if there's a plot critical reason for only doing half of the flashback before jumping back to the present.

[rereboy]

I wonder if there's a plot critical reason for only doing half of the flashback before jumping back to the present.

You would rather have another special right after a special..? If it was another special showing us the rest of the flashback you would probably just complain that its another special instead of the main story.

[TonyTheTiger]

I wonder if there's a plot critical reason for only doing half of the flashback before jumping back to the present.

You would rather have another special right after a special..? If it was another special showing us the rest of the flashback you would probably just complain that its another special instead of the main story.

First of all, covering events of the tournament that have been skipped over isn't exactly what I'd call a special chapter. People want to see the tournament. And splitting up the missing time frame into two separate flashbacks all Memento style seems rather unnecessary unless there is some plot relevant reason why we aren't supposed to see what happened in Buu and Bra's matches just yet. Otherwise it's just jumping between past and present for no good reason.

And second, you really have to cool it with these baseless accusations. Your response to every single post that includes anything but unequivocal praise of DBM is littered with "you"s and snide derision. I'm sorry but you don't get to just write off every single comment (heck, not even a negative comment in this case) as coming from someone who will never be satisfied no matter what and then put words in people's mouths to that effect when they've said nothing of the sort. If people are complaining about something, they probably have a reason. Your relentless white knighting on DBM's behalf against every single possible question (not even criticism, just question) concerning the comic's direction is very annoying. It's one thing to defend your own opinions. It's another when you're pulling things like "you would probably just complain" out of thin air without any provocation. Surprise, I'd rather see the full flashback all at once instead of playing the Memento game if there's no greater reason for the split. The flashback is part of the main story.

[rereboy]

The plot relevant reason to not show us the events chronologically was to show us Vegetto's perspective after coming back. To him it only took a few seconds, and that was also what it felt for the reader. That effect would have been lost any other way.

As for why the flashback regarding what happened in the meantime didn't continue beyond the Gotenks fight, it was probably to not delay the telling of the more important plot elements in the main story, for example, what will happen to Buu, for more than one chapter. I'm fairly sure they will show us what happened in the other skipped fights in another special chapter, but they probably simply decided to not delay the conclusion of the cliffhanger of the last normal chapter any further.

As for why I'm even replying to you, is because, once again, like in almost every post lately in this topic, its just to criticize something and, like many times, in my view, rather unfairly. It literally took a page with near perfect artwork (this last page) to actually see more posts without complains (new or old) than with complains.

Finally, I don't have to do anything. I'm not treating you with disrespect, and I'm not insulting you. I just happen to strongly disagree with your constant stance of what is, in my view, most of the time, unfair criticism. So, I reply most of the times I disagree with you or with someone else. That's what a forum is all about, discussion and points of view. You want to post something and have people not disagree with you many times? Sorry, that's not how a forum or even free speech works. You are free to criticize something as often as you like, just like I'm free to disagree with you and criticize your constant criticism.

As for me white knighting DBM, I just have a problem with unfair criticism. There are actually many things I feel could be much better in DBM. I have a problem with how they used Broly, I have a problem with how they justified Cold's power, I feel that many fights could use more fleshing out and better perspectives. I have reservations regarding how they are going to use Vegetto's apparent evilness. I find it poorly explained how the Kaioshins who apparently are known to interfere and act to destroy threats much more than other Kaioshins are allowing this tournament with so many threats in it, I feel that there should be more dialogs and interaction between the characters and universes, I dislike Bra's personality, I dislike how Vegetto said that Bra would be out of the tournament if she couldn't control herself and then when she kills her adversary Vegetto just says its okay, and other things. But you know what? I don't feel the need to be constantly criticizing it. I'm actually aware that this is an amateur work done in the author's free time with many time constraints and that its actually entertaining and one of the best fan manga out there of Dragon Ball despite its problems. When I think something in it is actually bad, I do criticize it. But with things that aren't actually bad, just aren't GREAT, I don't feel the need to even mention it most of the time, considering the amateur nature of the project. And I especially don't feel the need to be repeating the same kind of complains over and over. Which is why I disagree with many posters lately, especially since I feel that many times lately the criticism has been exaggerated and unfair.

Do you understand my position a little better now?

[TonyTheTiger]

The plot relevant reason to not show us the events chronologically was to show us Vegetto's perspective after coming back. To him it only took a few seconds, and that was also what it felt for the reader. That effect would have been lost any other way.

I mean all at once in the flashback. Why use two flashbacks instead of just one?

As for why the flashback regarding what happened in the meantime didn't continue beyond the Gotenks fight, it was probably to not delay the telling of the more important plot elements in the main story, for example, what will happen to Buu, for more than one chapter. I'm fairly sure they will show us what happened in the other skipped fights in another special chapter, but they probably simply decided to not delay the conclusion of the cliffhanger of the last normal chapter any further.

Still, if you've skipped two hours worth of time, it's weird to do a flashback of the first hour, skip back ahead to the present, and then at some later point do another flashback to the second hour if there's no reason for the division. The flashbacks aren't special chapters. The website itself keeps them with the main story in Separated Mode. So it's not like people would have a problem with back to back flashbacks in the same way they'd have a problem with back to back specials.

As for why I'm even replying to you, is because, once again, like in almost every post lately in this topic, its just to criticize something and, like many times, in my view, rather unfairly. It literally took a page with near perfect artwork (this last page) to actually see more posts without complains (new or old) than with complains.

Finally, I don't have to do anything. I'm not treating you with disrespect, and I'm not insulting you. I just happen to strongly disagree with your constant stance of what is, in my view, most of the time, unfair criticism. So, I reply most of the times I disagree with you or with someone else. That's what a forum is all about, discussion and points of view. You want to post something and have people not disagree with you many times? Sorry, that's not how a forum or even free speech works. You are free to criticize something as often as you like, just like I'm free to disagree with you and criticize your constant criticism.

In what universe is "I wonder if there's a plot critical reason for only doing half of the flashback before jumping back to the present" anything close to a criticism, let alone an "unfair" one? Heck, I've yet to see a single criticism that you haven't said was unfair. If you've become so defensive that a post like that can set you off, I don't know what to say other than you're being annoying.

[rereboy]

In what universe is "I wonder if there's a plot critical reason for only doing half of the flashback before jumping back to the present" anything close to a criticism, let alone an "unfair" one? If you've become so defensive that a post like that can set you off, I don't know what to say other than you're being annoying.

Well, to me it looked like you were criticizing their decision to continue with a normal chapter instead of showing us all the skipped fights first in a ironic manner, like you didn't actually believe there's any good reason for them to do that. In light of other posts you've made regarding their schedule and their release decisions, and the use of the word "critical", I interpreted it that way. But of course, if I actually interpreted what you meant incorrectly then I apologize for not interpreting correctly.

Btw, I've edited my last post regarding my "White Knighting".

[Super Vegetto]

Well atlest we see Goku in him xD

[Scarz]

Please excuse my vulgarity but I'm so wet for this artist right now...

[RandomGuy96]

I suggested this a while ago actually. Babidi needs to become the hero of DBM.

Anyway, I hope that this doesn't continue to be a total bullshit anticlimax. On one hand Gast looks kinda worried when the Vargas say they can't send Buu back, implying Buu can still get free eventually and murder everyone, but on the other if he wants Vegetto can just power up and kill Buu while he's being held by Gast.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Thank God, Vegetto won't turn evil because he lost.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I have no words Scarz.

I'm in total agreement though, this current artist is awesome. I...almost want to say I'm actually liking them better than Gogeta Jr., but it's been so long since we've had his work to look at, that I'd have to go back and look again to really judge. This artist is rocking the facial expressions though.

[Marco Polo]

Bra's face is the stuff of nightmare.