Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by Roland_ELoG » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:27 pm

From all the clips I've heard (and also from playing Blasts Raging and Ultimate), Clinkenbeard's Gohan never stops sounding like her. I don't know about you but I've never met a young boy who sounded like a college girl. Boys voices are way more gravelly. Don't get me wrong, nobody's voice is as gravelly as Nadolny Gohan...

Ugh. The Japanese version of Kai is looking better and better.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:19 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:Oh here we go. I'm about to erode all nerd-cred I may have, at one point had. Fair warning. :)

I love the Linda Young Freeza voice. It's weird and alien (no offense Mrs. Young...). I think it's kinda cool when villains(especially non-human ones) have creepy non-human voices. Why should an alien, and an alien with no clear gender, have a "normal dude" voice? That's probably why I also like the raspy creepy voices for Cell and Buu.

I've heard the Chris Ayres voice, and it's a classier performance to be sure. Still not "my thang" though.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by Big Momma » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:28 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:From all the clips I've heard (and also from playing Blasts Raging and Ultimate), Clinkenbeard's Gohan never stops sounding like her. I don't know about you but I've never met a young boy who sounded like a college girl.
I've never heard a college girl who sounds like that.


To be honest, neither of them sound like an actual little boy....but then again, very few of the voices in the show sound like actual people.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:58 pm

How about next time FUNimation hire a voice actor, they should think hard about getting a 12 year old boy? Maybe that will make Gohan sound believable.

Man, imagine a boy making 30,000 a year... By time he becomes 18, he will get a fancy BMW with no monthly payment...
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by kei17 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:04 am

I prefer Clinkenbeard over any other English voice actresses for young Gohan who sound like child chain smokers.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by Roland_ELoG » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:32 am

dbzfan7 wrote: Must...resist...urge..to kill. Must...contain...EXTREME HATRED of Linda Young's abomination of a Freeza voice.
Please don't kill me.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:34 am

kei17 wrote:I prefer Clinkenbeard over any other English voice actresses for young Gohan who sound like child smokers.
Indeed, if anything Colleen is the closest we got to a english Nazawa.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by Roland_ELoG » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:39 am

I think Clinkenbeard's Gohan occasionally cracks to reveal the adult female voice actor underneath.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksDmMjNJ3Q

Lawl. In any case you may disagree, but boys seriously don't sound like women, they sound like themselves. Have you seen Up?
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by kei17 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:42 am

Roland_ELoG wrote:In any case you may disagree, but boys seriously don't sound like women, they sound like themselves. Have you seen Up?
They don't sound like heavily-raspy-voiced chain smokers, too.

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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:50 am

Roland_ELoG wrote:I think Clinkenbeard's Gohan occasionally cracks to reveal the adult female voice actor underneath.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksDmMjNJ3Q

Lawl. In any case you may disagree, but boys seriously don't sound like women, they sound like themselves. Have you seen Up?
What age did your voice start cracking? For me it was 10-12 so if anything that adds to the accuracy of the character's age.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by Roland_ELoG » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:59 am

I've always had a gravelly voice, regardless of pitch. Nadolny's Gohan probably gargled gravel with his bowl of nuts in the morning, but still. Makes more sense than shrieking collegiate hilarity.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by Daisetsu » Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:05 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:How about next time FUNimation hire a voice actor, they should think hard about getting a 12 year old boy? Maybe that will make Gohan sound believable.

Man, imagine a boy making 30,000 a year... By time he becomes 18, he will get a fancy BMW with no monthly payment...
Please no. SEGA did the age thing with Tails from Adventure 1 to Hereos and each one sounded terrible. I don't want to see bad that replicated in Dragon Ball; Clinkenbeard is good enough.

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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:04 am

Daisetsu wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:How about next time FUNimation hire a voice actor, they should think hard about getting a 12 year old boy? Maybe that will make Gohan sound believable.

Man, imagine a boy making 30,000 a year... By time he becomes 18, he will get a fancy BMW with no monthly payment...
Please no. SEGA did the age thing with Tails from Adventure 1 to Hereos and each one sounded terrible. I don't want to see bad that replicated in Dragon Ball; Clinkenbeard is good enough.
*Cough* Aaron Dismuke as Alphonse Elric *cough*.

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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:17 am

I wonder how Aaron would have done as Gohan. Can someone make a video with his voice coming out of Gohan by any chance?
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by TheAldella » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:05 pm

Daisetsu wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:How about next time FUNimation hire a voice actor, they should think hard about getting a 12 year old boy? Maybe that will make Gohan sound believable.

Man, imagine a boy making 30,000 a year... By time he becomes 18, he will get a fancy BMW with no monthly payment...
Please no. SEGA did the age thing with Tails from Adventure 1 to Hereos and each one sounded terrible. I don't want to see bad that replicated in Dragon Ball; Clinkenbeard is good enough.
Sonic Adventure 2 seemed decent at least, but oh my God were the others bad.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by Looneygamemaster » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:08 pm

Please no. SEGA did the age thing with Tails from Adventure 1 to Hereos and each one sounded terrible.
Yeah, but everyone in that voice cast was terrible (though at least in a harmless and silly way). It doesn't seem fair to judge the "actual kid" approach based on that.

On topic--I honestly feel that all the attachment for Nadolny is pure nostalgia. I'm re-visiting DBZ's English dub, and...my goodness. :crazy: Clinkenbeard is far and away the better voice actress and I find her much more believable than Nadolny (I find that her "boy voice" is actually more fitting for Gohan than it is for Luffy).

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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:11 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:From all the clips I've heard (and also from playing Blasts Raging and Ultimate), Clinkenbeard's Gohan never stops sounding like her. I don't know about you but I've never met a young boy who sounded like a college girl. Boys voices are way more gravelly. Don't get me wrong, nobody's voice is as gravelly as Nadolny Gohan...

Ugh. The Japanese version of Kai is looking better and better.
My little brother sounds similar to Ms.Collen Gohan and I never heard a college girl sound like that. Also many anime has young boys sound like female. Hell some sound way to deep. Xamd had a boy who was 10 and his voice was deeper than Kyle Herbert Gohan.

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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:24 pm

Daisetsu wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:How about next time FUNimation hire a voice actor, they should think hard about getting a 12 year old boy? Maybe that will make Gohan sound believable.

Man, imagine a boy making 30,000 a year... By time he becomes 18, he will get a fancy BMW with no monthly payment...
Please no. SEGA did the age thing with Tails from Adventure 1 to Hereos and each one sounded terrible. I don't want to see bad that replicated in Dragon Ball; Clinkenbeard is good enough.
Oh god the hilariously bad line reads we got from that. Tails didn't get a good voice until Colours.

I think the kid who voiced Aang is the only good kid voice actor I know.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:16 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Daisetsu wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:How about next time FUNimation hire a voice actor, they should think hard about getting a 12 year old boy? Maybe that will make Gohan sound believable.

Man, imagine a boy making 30,000 a year... By time he becomes 18, he will get a fancy BMW with no monthly payment...
Please no. SEGA did the age thing with Tails from Adventure 1 to Hereos and each one sounded terrible. I don't want to see bad that replicated in Dragon Ball; Clinkenbeard is good enough.
Oh god the hilariously bad line reads we got from that. Tails didn't get a good voice until Colours.

I think the kid who voiced Aang is the only good kid voice actor I know.
That would be Zachary Taylor. Another actor id like to see do Gohan. Seriously someone make a clip of Gohan with Aaron and Zach's voices in the mix.
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Re: Why do so many American fans hate Kai?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:48 am

Good kid voice actors are rare, but they do exist. I always thought Aaron Dismuke's performance as Alphonse Elric was very good.

Germany also used real kids for all of the kid roles in DB, DBZ, and DBGT. I'm unable to determine how good a job they did without speaking German, though.
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