The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:11 am

OK let's use Movie 10 Broly, but remove SPC from the match up.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:14 am

Kid Buu wrote:OK let's use Movie 10 Broly, but remove SPC from the match up.
Hmm.... Gohan would probably lose since Cell, Dabura, and Bojack are there.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by khalildh » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:38 am

Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:43 am

khalildh wrote:Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
I can see a Code Orange coming from this.

Anyways Gohan being stronger than Pure Boo isn't that hard to believe. Vegeta thought Genki Dama was a better idea because Gohan was dead, All the way at Earth, and he wanted the Earthlings NOT the Z fighters to save the Earth for once. He even ask Goku "How Many times have you save the Earth". Since Gohan > SSj3 Gotenks > Super Boo > SSj3 Goku I can see Mystic Gohan beating the shit out of Boo.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by khalildh » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:15 am

TheGmGoken wrote:
khalildh wrote:Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
I can see a Code Orange coming from this.

Anyways Gohan being stronger than Pure Boo isn't that hard to believe. Vegeta thought Genki Dama was a better idea because Gohan was dead, All the way at Earth, and he wanted the Earthlings NOT the Z fighters to save the Earth for once. He even ask Goku "How Many times have you save the Earth". Since Gohan > SSj3 Gotenks > Super Boo > SSj3 Goku I can see Mystic Gohan beating the shit out of Boo.
Assuming the strength argument is valid, do you think that he would have a move that could finish off Kid Boo, from what I remember of the Chou Gohan fight he mostly used melee moves.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:24 am

khalildh wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
khalildh wrote:Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
I can see a Code Orange coming from this.

Anyways Gohan being stronger than Pure Boo isn't that hard to believe. Vegeta thought Genki Dama was a better idea because Gohan was dead, All the way at Earth, and he wanted the Earthlings NOT the Z fighters to save the Earth for once. He even ask Goku "How Many times have you save the Earth". Since Gohan > SSj3 Gotenks > Super Boo > SSj3 Goku I can see Mystic Gohan beating the shit out of Boo.
Assuming the strength argument is valid, do you think that he would have a move that could finish off Kid Boo, from what I remember of the Chou Gohan fight he mostly used melee moves.
Mystic Gohan has the same attacks as Kid Gohan and Adult Gohan(Pre Mystic). Just cause he used Melee duirng his Fight with Super Boo doesn't mean he doesn't have strong ki attacks. He just didn't need ki. Why use Ki when you can just fuck up someone with your fist? I picture a 100% Power Maskeno or Kamehameha should do it.

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Post by Kid Buu » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:30 am

khalildh wrote:Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
Kid Buu wins unless someone holds Gohan's hand.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:31 am

Kid Buu wrote:
khalildh wrote:Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
Kid Buu wins unless someone holds Gohan's hand.
Shit I forgot about that. What if Gohan holds his on hand!?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kakashi » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:38 am

Good Boo vs M10 LSSjin Broly

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:39 am

Kakashi wrote:Good Boo vs M10 LSSjin Broly
Boo eats him and becomes Broly-Boo.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:16 am

Good Boo vs M10 LSSjin Broly
Buu kills Broly with a threatening glare.
Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
Gohan one-shots Buu. It is repeatedly stated that Super Buu is faaaar stronger than Pure Buu, and Gohan was smashing that one around.

Vegeta wanted the Earthlings to take care of themselves. He outright says that. He never doubts that bringing in Gohan would work.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by khalildh » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:34 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Good Boo vs M10 LSSjin Broly
Buu kills Broly with a threatening glare.
Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
Gohan one-shots Buu. It is repeatedly stated that Super Buu is faaaar stronger than Pure Buu, and Gohan was smashing that one around.

Vegeta wanted the Earthlings to take care of themselves. He outright says that. He never doubts that bringing in Gohan would work.
Your conjecture stated as fact is amusing on the power level boards, on here it is much less so. Super Boo didn't 1 Shot anyone in the Hyperbolic time chamber, and in fact Kid Boo did something that Super Boo was not able to, he managed to Kill Chou Gohan.

Kid Boo killing Gohan can not be argued in the manga.

You can say whatever you want about Gohan maybe not dieing once Kid Boo decides to destroy the earth in this fight, but in the manga it is incontrovertible that Kid Boo obliterated Gohan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:40 am

khalildh wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
Good Boo vs M10 LSSjin Broly
Buu kills Broly with a threatening glare.
Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
Gohan one-shots Buu. It is repeatedly stated that Super Buu is faaaar stronger than Pure Buu, and Gohan was smashing that one around.

Vegeta wanted the Earthlings to take care of themselves. He outright says that. He never doubts that bringing in Gohan would work.
Your conjecture stated as fact is amusing on the power level boards, on here it is much less so. Super Boo didn't 1 Shot anyone in the Hyperbolic time chamber, and in fact Kid Boo did something that Super Boo was not able to, he managed to Kill Chou Gohan.

Kid Boo killing Gohan can not be argued in the manga.

You can say whatever you want about Gohan maybe not dieing once Kid Boo decides to destroy the earth in this fight, but in the manga it is incontrovertible that Kid Boo obliterated Gohan.
Yes Pure(Kid) Boo killed a Gohan was Knocked out and was already beaten up by Gotenks Boo. C'mon man. That's like saying Krillin could have killed Vegeta ignoring the fact Vegeta was half dead already. So Krillin was able to do what Goku could't do. Seriously you cannot use a knocked out character dying(I doubt Gohan felt the pain) like it's helpful. I'll like to see Pure Boo kill Gohan when Gohan is 100%.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:43 am

Oh my god. You're serious, aren't you?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by khalildh » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:55 am

khalildh wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
Good Boo vs M10 LSSjin Broly
Kid Boo vs Chou Gohan.

If you believe Chou Gohan is stronger you must explain why Vegeta thought Goku ('s Spirit bomb) was a better choice than Gohan.

Also no Absorption allowed.

And no One-shot arguments.
Gohan one-shots Buu. It is repeatedly stated that Super Buu is faaaar stronger than Pure Buu, and Gohan was smashing that one around.

Vegeta wanted the Earthlings to take care of themselves. He outright says that. He never doubts that bringing in Gohan would work.
Your conjecture stated as fact is amusing on the power level boards, on here it is much less so. Super Boo didn't 1 Shot anyone in the Hyperbolic time chamber, and in fact Kid Boo did something that Super Boo was not able to, he managed to Kill Chou Gohan.

Kid Boo killing Gohan can not be argued in the manga.

You can say whatever you want about Gohan maybe not dieing once Kid Boo decides to destroy the earth in this fight, but in the manga it is incontrovertible that Kid Boo obliterated Gohan.
Yes Pure(Kid) Boo killed a Gohan was Knocked out and was already beaten up by Gotenks Boo. C'mon man. That's like saying Krillin could have killed Vegeta ignoring the fact Vegeta was half dead already. So Krillin was able to do what Goku could't do. Seriously you cannot use a knocked out character dying(I doubt Gohan felt the pain) like it's helpful. I'll like to see Pure Boo kill Gohan when Gohan is 100%.[/quote]


Gohan vs Kid Boo

The Fight starts.

Kid Boo teleports into space blows up planet... Gohan Dies.

You cannot argue that. And No Gohan is not faster than Kid Boo's teleport.

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Post by khalildh » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:06 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Oh my god. You're serious, aren't you?
Of course I am because unlike you I do not use hyperbole to win an argument.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:12 am

Yes cause Gohan cant counter with a blast of his own. Just like what Vegeta did. Going by that logic, Ssj3 Gotenks < Kibito. Because Kibitio can teleport out of space like Boo and blow it up.
Gotenks dead.

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Post by khalildh » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:57 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Yes cause Gohan cant counter with a blast of his own. Just like what Vegeta did. Going by that logic, Ssj3 Gotenks < Kibito. Because Kibitio can teleport out of space like Boo and blow it up.
Gotenks dead.
Even if he could counter which in unlikely, he still wouldn't be able to kill Boo. Boo could just keep spamming Blasts and then Gohan would get tired out eventually leading to the planet being blown up.

Strawman argument fail btw.

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khalildh wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Yes cause Gohan cant counter with a blast of his own. Just like what Vegeta did. Going by that logic, Ssj3 Gotenks < Kibito. Because Kibitio can teleport out of space like Boo and blow it up.
Gotenks dead.
Even if he could counter which in unlikely, he still wouldn't be able to kill Boo. Boo could just keep spamming Blasts and then Gohan would get tired out eventually leading to the planet being blown up.

Strawman argument fail btw.
Please tell me you're joking or trolling. *Massive headache*

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TheGmGoken wrote:
khalildh wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Yes cause Gohan cant counter with a blast of his own. Just like what Vegeta did. Going by that logic, Ssj3 Gotenks < Kibito. Because Kibitio can teleport out of space like Boo and blow it up.
Gotenks dead.
Even if he could counter which in unlikely, he still wouldn't be able to kill Boo. Boo could just keep spamming Blasts and then Gohan would get tired out eventually leading to the planet being blown up.

Strawman argument fail btw.
Please tell me you're joking or trolling. *Massive headache*
Neither, and the fact that you can't argue against it humors me.

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