The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by rereboy » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:52 am

khalildh wrote:Super Perfect Cell vs Boo

1. Battle Power is similar for the fight.
2. Neither can use absorption.
3. No Magic.
4. If Boo blows up the planet we are assuming Cell can survive in space.

Who Wins?
Buu because of his superior regeneration.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:25 pm

rereboy wrote:
khalildh wrote:Super Perfect Cell vs Boo

1. Battle Power is similar for the fight.
2. Neither can use absorption.
3. No Magic.
4. If Boo blows up the planet we are assuming Cell can survive in space.

Who Wins?
Buu because of his superior regeneration.
Cell has Zenkais so he wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:39 pm

Cell CAN survive in space.

Anyway, Buu wins handily. Better regeneration + more stamina + prehensile head tentacle + body manipulation+ more skilled. And, if it's Super Buu, more intelligent as well.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:33 pm

I still find the notion that Super Buu Is smarter than Cell highly ammusing.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Godo » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:14 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
rereboy wrote:
khalildh wrote:Super Perfect Cell vs Boo

1. Battle Power is similar for the fight.
2. Neither can use absorption.
3. No Magic.
4. If Boo blows up the planet we are assuming Cell can survive in space.

Who Wins?
Buu because of his superior regeneration.
Cell has Zenkais so he wins.
And when do you assume that he will get the time to recover from near death? Unless you think that he carries around Senzu beans in his...nonexisting pockets.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:39 pm

Godo wrote:And when do you assume that he will get the time to recover from near death? Unless you think that he carries around Senzu beans in his...nonexisting pockets.
Umm did you forget how he blew himself up, regenerated, and got stronger?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:50 pm

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Godo wrote:And when do you assume that he will get the time to recover from near death? Unless you think that he carries around Senzu beans in his...nonexisting pockets.
Umm did you forget how he blew himself up, regenerated, and got stronger?
And he thought that it was a miracle that it happened. It's not something he should be able to do consistently.

What I'd imagine would happen is that they would fight for a while, and Cell would eventually begin to tire, just like he did against Goku. Buu has endless stamina, so he'd be fine. Cell would eventually go for a Kamehameha, and fail to wipe out Buu, Buu would copy it, and annihilate Cell, just like Gohan did.

Or Buu would just beat Cell to death. Cell's regeneration doesn't seem to do anything to blunt trauma, otherwise he would have healed after Gohan pummeled him. Piccolo never seemed to recover from various bruises and scratches he got over the years either, so it seems like Namekian regeneration only recovers from "removed" body parts. Cell's regeneration from his self-destruction was just an extreme case of that.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:53 pm

I'm not implying Cell would be the one to bring himself down to one cell. It's possible, but Buu could miss a Cell.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:56 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm not implying Cell would be the one to bring himself down to one cell. It's possible, but Buu could miss a Cell.
Ok, but if we're talking possibilities like that, then it's also possible that Buu would sense or see Cell regenerating, and blast him again. He wouldn't be on a different plane of existence like he was when he regenerated during the Cell Games.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:03 pm

Fat Buu can't sense energy.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:06 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Fat Buu can't sense energy.
Fine. He can still see the mass of green goo that's forming arms and legs right in front of him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by khalildh » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:10 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Fat Buu can't sense energy.
Fine. He can still see the mass of green goo that's forming arms and legs right in front of him.
If it isn't Kid Boo, we can assume Cell can use IT while regenerating.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:13 pm

khalildh wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Fat Buu can't sense energy.
Fine. He can still see the mass of green goo that's forming arms and legs right in front of him.
If it isn't Kid Boo, we can assume Cell can use IT while regenerating.
I seriously doubt that Cell can teleport while he's blasted to bits. He'd have to be able to concentrate and sense ki, and I'd imagine he'd be a bit preoccupied with, you know, growing an entirely new body.

Where would he teleport to anyway?
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Post by Kid Buu » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:16 pm

Gohan Vs. Piccolo at equal power levels.

Seeing as they both seem to be incapable of removing a villain unless Goku sacrifices himself.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:20 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Gohan Vs. Piccolo at equal power levels.

Seeing as they both seem to be incapable of removing a villain unless Goku sacrifices himself.
Piccolo is the king of killing movie henchmen. Just saying.

Depends on which Gohan. I think that teen, rusty Gohan would lose, as would any pre-ROSAT Gohan. Cell Games Gohan though, from what I can remember, was implied to be an extremely talented fighter, able to analyze Goku and Cell's fighting techniques while watching their fight. He might be able to take this.
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Nah. Piccolo just Clothes Beams a shoe into his heart. Piccolo wins.
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Post by Kid Buu » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:24 pm

Cell Games Gohan would refuse to fight though, and go into some form of depression that he has to fight his mentor. :lol:
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by khalildh » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:28 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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Kamiccolo9 wrote: Fine. He can still see the mass of green goo that's forming arms and legs right in front of him.
If it isn't Kid Boo, we can assume Cell can use IT while regenerating.
I seriously doubt that Cell can teleport while he's blasted to bits. He'd have to be able to concentrate and sense ki, and I'd imagine he'd be a bit preoccupied with, you know, growing an entirely new body.

Where would he teleport to anyway?
I think we would teleport to a place far enough away so that he could get his composure,

So I guess Cell wins as long as he can get enough Zenkais to win the fight.

Boo will win if he puts enough pressure on Cell such that Cell tires out.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:34 pm

If Cell tried to escape with IT, Buu would instantly learn IT and teleport to Cell. Not to mention, Super Buu wouldn't give Cell a chance. He just pummels people. When he does use a blast, its always a big one that completely engulfs the target.

It's very hard for Buu to lose this. Fat Buu would have the biggest chance at losing, since unlike Super Buu he's dumber than Cell and likes to fool around. So does Pure Buu actually, but he's at least more savage than fatso.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:39 pm

khalildh wrote:
I think we would teleport to a place far enough away so that he could get his composure,

So I guess Cell wins as long as he can get enough Zenkais to win the fight.

Boo will win if he puts enough pressure on Cell such that Cell tires out.
And how is Cell going to get all of these zenkais if Buu obliterates him while he's regenerating? What's Cell going to do to Buu that Buu couldn't recover from? How is Cell going to teleport when he looks like this? He looks like he's a bit to preoccupied to concentrate on sensing ki at that point, assuming he is capable of rational thought at all.

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And speaking of Zenkais, why does Cell even get them for this fight? This is at equal levels. If Cell gets his zenkais, then Buu should get his rage boosts, since they are both drawing on the same thing: dormant power. And I could easily see Cell taunting Buu and setting him off. I don't see Cell surviving an Omni-directional Explosion Wave from Buu, especially when attacks from Grade 3 Vegeta and FPSSJ Goku were capable of blowing him apart.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:26 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Fat Buu can't sense energy.
Fine. He can still see the mass of green goo that's forming arms and legs right in front of him.
He grew back fairly quickly. He would also have the zenkai so who's to say Buu could even dispose of it.
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