The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[TheGmGoken]

No, it's really not. 61% weaker or not, 39% of a moon is still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than 5 cities or even a continent. Furthermore, if a guy with a BP of 180 can destroy a moon, a guy with a BP of 260 sure as hell can destroy something far greater than a city. Have you ever heard of condensing energy? That's how characters like SSJ3 Goku don't blow up planets with measly ki blasts. Dragon Balls are durable as f***. No one has ever been able to break a dragon ball. Yeah, a rocket isn't hotter than a bomb =/. Again though, Tao was completely unable to defend himself in the air. I also haven't seen Naruto kill a superhuman being with his tongue soooooo....

Tao is 61% weaker but the power of their attacks could be much wider apart. The Roshi feat is considered an outlier anyway. Tenshinhan's fired his most powerful blast directly at the ground and didn't cause a fraction of the damage what Roshi was able to do.

Vegeta told Krillin to break the ball and he went to punch the ball to break it so they can be broken. I never said a rocket is hotter than a bomb but it does pack a stronger punch.

It doesn't really matter if he was in the air he was still killed by a grenade. Naruto can dish out thousands of times the amount of power as that bomb. If a grenade can kill Tao then Naruto would kill him 10x over.

Nope. Dragon Ball characters have Ki, not chakra, it wouldn't work.

If Tao was in Naruto he'd have the same properties as everyone else just like how Naruto would have Ki if he were to be placed in the Dragon Ball world.

If Tao was BORN in the Naruto world then yes. However he was born in DB so he does not. If Goku some how falls into Naruto universe then he would still have ki. His body won't change.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Tao is 61% weaker but the power of their attacks could be much wider apart. The Roshi feat is considered an outlier anyway. Tenshinhan's fired his most powerful blast directly at the ground and didn't cause a fraction of the damage what Roshi was able to do.

Vegeta told Krillin to break the ball and he went to punch the ball to break it so they can be broken. I never said a rocket is hotter than a bomb but it does pack a stronger punch.

It doesn't really matter if he was in the air he was still killed by a grenade. Naruto can dish out thousands of times the amount of power as that bomb. If a grenade can kill Tao then Naruto would kill him 10x over.

Too bad I don't consider Roshi's feat an outlier. He blew up the moon, Tao isn't exponentially weaker than him so he too has immense power. Again condensing Ki is what allows people like Goku to not destroy planets with measly ki blasts at this point. The same logic applies here to Tenshinhan. Good for Vegeta. He doesn't know if it can break or not. Furthermore, shouldn't the dragon balls be as strong as their creator? Kami has a BP of 300+ at this point so naturally Tao, with a BP of 110, shouldn't even be able to put a dent in the balls. The force of the rocket is not one is being taken into account here, it's the heat. Tao's Dodanpa has much much greater force than a measly rocket or bomb for that matter.

If Tao was in Naruto he'd have the same properties as everyone else just like how Naruto would have Ki if he were to be placed in the Dragon Ball world.

Too bad Tao's not in Naruto now is he? Crossovers don't call for Naruto gaining Ki or Tao gaining Chakra. They both have specific abilities tailored to their universe.

[Kakashi]

SSjin Kid Vegeta vs Frieza

Who wins? Frieza can't transform

[TheGmGoken]

Edit: HOLY SHIT WHAT A MIS READ.

Freeza have a great battle with Kid Vegeta but Vgeeta wins. Since Vegeta surpassed him(King Vegeta) as a child. Adding SSj on a 530k Freeza. Would make a decent battle. Just Vegeta wins

[TheMightyOzaru]

Vegeta wins.

[dbzfan7]

Kid Vegeta is weaker than King Vegeta Pre-Planet Vegeta explosion.

[Saiga]

The fight ends the exact same way Goku vs Roshi did, only Freeza doesn't plan for it.

[KentalSSJ6]

Seeing as we have essentially covered every single possible matchup, lets dive into some what-if territory.

Fifth Form Freeza VS SSJ1 Goku.

Instead of 100% power, Freeza enters his version of the form Cooler used against Goku. How do you think it would have played out?

[dbzfan7]

Seeing as we have essentially covered every single possible matchup, lets dive into some what-if territory.

Fifth Form Freeza VS SSJ1 Goku.

Instead of 100% power, Freeza enters his version of the form Cooler used against Goku. How do you think it would have played out?

If Freeza could have transformed further, he would have beat Goku on Namek

[TheGmGoken]

Seeing as we have essentially covered every single possible matchup, lets dive into some what-if territory.

Fifth Form Freeza VS SSJ1 Goku.

Instead of 100% power, Freeza enters his version of the form Cooler used against Goku. How do you think it would have played out?

Freeza would have done what Meta Cooler did to SSJ Goku. Seeing as you mean Namek Goku SSJ. Cept Freeza would attack Gohan and kill him to make Goku angry. Only for Goku to see how much of a fucking failure he is and that he can't save his son, his friends, and a planet. With this Goku begs Freeza to end it. But Freeza toys with Goku. Freeza then get bored and break Goku's neck and Deathbeam his brain out.

[RandomGuy96]

Seeing as we have essentially covered every single possible matchup, lets dive into some what-if territory.

Fifth Form Freeza VS SSJ1 Goku.

Instead of 100% power, Freeza enters his version of the form Cooler used against Goku. How do you think it would have played out?

This entirely depends on what level I think is appropriate for true form Cooler. And I change my position on that, like, every day. But at the moment, I think that his natural max, aka "about 70% power" for Freeza, is 32 million, and his fifth form is five times that much (making him slightly stronger than Trunks in his first appearance, and slightly weaker than Android Arc Piccolo). So fifth form Freeza would rip Goku to shreds at any time before the Cell Games. He'd be at 400 million, which for me is Android 16 level.

[KentalSSJ6]

SSJ4 Vegito VS whatever the hell equals him.

[Saiga]

Yeah, I think that if Freeza could transform, there's no way he'd still be too weak to win.

[TheGmGoken]

SSJ4 Vegito VS whatever the hell equals him.

A Potara earning fusion of Birsu and Whis?

[RandomGuy96]

SSJ4 Vegito VS whatever the hell equals him.

A Potara Ultimate Gokhan should technically be stronger. Ultimate brings a Saiyan above and beyond their limits, while SS4 merely brings them to their limits. On top of that, Gohan's limits + Goku's limits > Vegeta's limits + Goku's limits. Compatibility boosts shouldn't be a problem for Gokhan, as Goku and Gohan aren't that far apart in base. At least not enough to make up for the massive difference in power between "to the limit" and "faaaaaar beyond the limit".

But it doesn't work like that, because lolfuckconsistency. You'd need a hypothetical Potara fusion to take this one down. Like Beers and Whis. Or a fusion of some GT characters.

Aside from them: if body type isn't factored in for Potara (nothing indicates it is), "Buudegarnhan" (Buuhan + Hirudegarn) should be able to do it, since, IMO at least, Hirudegarn =< Buuhan > Z SS4 Goku = Z SS4 Vegeta. Unless, via some arbitrary restriction, Potara ONLY works if put on human-like ears. Buu should be able to use body manipulation to replicate one at least, but Hirudegarn doesn't even appear to have ears. Maybe the earring can go in his horn?

[Kid Buu]

Oozaru Raditz Vs. Kuririn & Gohan after the Guru power-up.

[TheGmGoken]

Oozaru Raditz Vs. Kuririn & Gohan after the Guru power-up.

Oozaru Raditz is only 12k - 15k(Depends on the source). Krillin and GOhan after Grand Elder power up should be around Vegeta's Saiyan Arc power level(Well Gohan should be with Krillin being close). So they take this victory.

[KentalSSJ6]

Oozaru Raditz Vs. Kuririn & Gohan after the Guru power-up.

Raditz was 1500. 1500 X 10 = 15,000.

On Namek Gohan was 14,000 and Krillin was 13,000.

So together, they kick the crap out of Oozaru Raditz.

[Strife1]

Neko Majin Vs. Arale

[TheGmGoken]

Bebi Janemba vs Vegetto(Transformations up to SSj2)