Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

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Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

Post by cesarcoronel07 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:14 pm

Either Bardock or Broly?
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Re: Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:25 pm

BROLY!? :lolno: .

Bardock is the SSJ Legend FREEZA knows about. Not the Saiyans. The Saiyan legend was a SSJ who last appear 1000 years ago. Who lost control of his power and killed himself. So Bardock is NOT the first SSJ. He just started the fear for Freeza. The Saiyans....well I doubt 1000 years ago was the first SSJ. Just SSJ was so rare they it was like one every few thousand years. Until Goku and the gang showed up. Broly was born at the same time as Goku. There is no way and Goken means NO WAY that Broly is the first SSJ.
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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:27 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:BROLY!? :lolno: .

Bardock is the SSJ Legend FREEZA knows about. Not the Saiyans. The Saiyan legend was a SSJ who last appear 1000 years ago. Who lost control of his power and killed himself. So Bardock is NOT the first SSJ. He just started the fear for Freeza. The Saiyans....well I doubt 1000 years ago was the first SSJ. Just SSJ was so rare they it was like one every few thousand years. Until Goku and the gang showed up. Broly was born at the same time as Goku. There is no way and Goken means NO WAY that Broly is the first SSJ.
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Re: Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:44 pm

The recent Chozenshuu's would have you believe its Bardock as it includes Episode of Bardock in the official series timeline.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:20 am

Bardock is likely the first SSj on Planet Plant in the manga. The anime and movies are different from the manga, I don't think EOB is apart of the anime given that the Tsufurusian are shown to be the main race on Planet Plant in the anime. Bardock also likely create a new timeline, so who the hell knows :crazy: .
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:22 am

Neither. There were SSJs before Bardock.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:29 am

I could buy the theory on the Saiyans in that they were similar to the Nameks.

Nail says to Piccolo when they meet that Piccolo's power remind him of the Ancient Namekian Warriors. When Piccolo fuses with Kami his power is no different if not slightly above what the average warrior of his race used to be.

I could see the Saiyans having a similar past. Maybe Super Saiyans were common at one point in their history then something happened and time eventually reduced what used to be a normal thing into a legend.
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Re: Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:33 am

Bardock is the last Saiyan that appeared 1.000 years ago. Vegeta also talked about the last Super Saiyan that appeared 1.000 years ago, not the first.
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Re: Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

Post by shreddinghead » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:20 am

Bardock was just an average fighter, but a brilliant scientist. :lol:
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Post by Sin » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:40 am

Wouldn't there have had to have been a number of Super Saiyans at one point for the first Super Saiyan God transformation to occur? Sorry if I got that wrong, I haven't seen the film yet.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:16 pm

Sin wrote:Wouldn't there have had to have been a number of Super Saiyans at one point for the first Super Saiyan God transformation to occur? Sorry if I got that wrong, I haven't seen the film yet.
The requirement wasn't to be a SSJ. Since the Good Saiyans had trouble with Oozaru(10x) I doubt they needed SSG to counter it if they had SSJ(50x) unless they're plain up weak. They just added SSJ to the ritual for epic effect and because Super Saiyan is iconic. The form should't even be called SSJ GOD. It has zero things to do with SSJ and was only caused SSJ GOD because of promotional reasons and it sound "Cool".
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Re: Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

Post by Blu-ray_Mistress » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:22 pm

Bardock definitely. :)
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:27 pm

shreddinghead wrote:Bardock was just an average fighter, but a brilliant scientist. :lol:
True. He invented time travel way before Bulma did. :lol:
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Re: Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:29 pm

I dont think it was Bardock. As I said before I believe Super Saiyans were common at one point just as common as they are now. Just like how Ancient Namekian Warriors would be able to crush Freeza, I have no issue seeing Saiyans being much stronger centuries ago until some event happened and the Super Saiyan became so uncommon that it soon became a legend.
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Re: Who could have been the first Super saiyan?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:38 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I dont think it was Bardock. As I said before I believe Super Saiyans were common at one point just as common as they are now. Just like how Ancient Namekian Warriors would be able to crush Freeza, I have no issue seeing Saiyans being much stronger centuries ago until some event happened and the Super Saiyan became so uncommon that it soon became a legend.
Kinda like ancient Gods? Seeing as that most stories take place around the same era. But now you don't hear about a lot of new God legends.
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