Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:50 am

If I had to guess, Herms' post is a subtle commentary on how you need actually add substance to your posts to make them even the least bit intelligible, nevermind interesting.

Additionally, note how I've edited the topic's subject line to literally spell out what's being discussed - as mentioned earlier in the thread, "BOZ" could just as easily be referring to Battle of Z, a video game that's due out soon, and with video games oftentimes spouting out their own battle powers, it's easy to see how it would be confusing.

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:45 am

Ah so this is Chaozu at the beginning of DBZ? I'd say he's rocking a BP of 175.
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Re: BOZ Chaoutzu's Battle Power?

Post by Bierhoff » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:50 am

Kakashi wrote: 23rd Budokai Krillin > Piccolo Daimao

Piccolo says that with people like Krillin, ruling the world might be harder than he thought

Though Yamcha is uncertain. BOZ Yamcha is not much stronger than EOD Yamcha so I think he would be about equal to Piccolo Daimao
Krillin has improved, but not to the extent given credit. Piccolo saying it will be hard ruling the world with people like him around doesn't mean he is stronger than Piccolo Daimao, it could merely mean he has the potential of becoming a threat.

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Re: BOZ Chaoutzu's Battle Power?

Post by Kakashi » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:32 pm

Bierhoff wrote:
Kakashi wrote: 23rd Budokai Krillin > Piccolo Daimao

Piccolo says that with people like Krillin, ruling the world might be harder than he thought

Though Yamcha is uncertain. BOZ Yamcha is not much stronger than EOD Yamcha so I think he would be about equal to Piccolo Daimao
Krillin has improved, but not to the extent given credit. Piccolo saying it will be hard ruling the world with people like him around doesn't mean he is stronger than Piccolo Daimao, it could merely mean he has the potential of becoming a threat.
Tenshinhan should be way stronger than Piccolo Daimao and Tenshinhan is not that much tronger than Krillin

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Kakashi » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:38 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Ah so this is Chaozu at the beginning of DBZ? I'd say he's rocking a BP of 175.
Chaozu was weaker than Yamcha who was 177 so he should be well below that. Between 139 to 177. I would say that he should be in the middle like 150-160

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Re: BOZ Chaoutzu's Battle Power?

Post by Bierhoff » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:04 pm

Kakashi wrote:
Tenshinhan should be way stronger than Piccolo Daimao and Tenshinhan is not that much tronger than Krillin
Tenshinhan isn't necessarily that much stronger than Piccolo Daimao. He has most likely just surpassed him, but not by a whole lot.

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:13 pm

Kakashi wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Ah so this is Chaozu at the beginning of DBZ? I'd say he's rocking a BP of 175.
Chaozu was weaker than Yamcha who was 177 so he should be well below that. Between 139 to 177. I would say that he should be in the middle like 150-160
177 is likely Yamcha's resting level. There's no way Tenshinhan, for example, is rocking 250 when Piccolo Daimao is rocking 260.
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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Kakashi » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:17 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Kakashi wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Ah so this is Chaozu at the beginning of DBZ? I'd say he's rocking a BP of 175.
Chaozu was weaker than Yamcha who was 177 so he should be well below that. Between 139 to 177. I would say that he should be in the middle like 150-160
177 is likely Yamcha's resting level. There's no way Tenshinhan, for example, is rocking 250 when Piccolo Daimao is rocking 260.
Piccolo Daimao is not 260

There is no resting level

On topic: Tenhinhan expected Goku would be much stronger than he was vs Piccolo and still thought he might have a chance to beat him

FP Goku >> Weighted Goku >>= Tenshinhan > FP Goku (Tenshinhan' Expectations) >> Goku Post Sacred Water >>= Piccolo Daimao

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Bierhoff » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:26 pm

Kakashi wrote: On topic: Tenhinhan expected Goku would be much stronger than he was vs Piccolo and still thought he might have a chance to beat him
That was anime-only if I recall correctly. Tenshinhan only remarked things about Goku's speed in the manga.

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Kakashi » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:29 pm

Bierhoff wrote:
Kakashi wrote: On topic: Tenhinhan expected Goku would be much stronger than he was vs Piccolo and still thought he might have a chance to beat him
That was anime-only if I recall correctly. Tenshinhan only remarked things about Goku's speed in the manga.
Tenshinhan was in par with Weighted Goku who was >> three years before

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:00 pm

Tien mentioned that Goku was way stronger than he was 3 yrs before, but that his speed barely changed:
Chapter: 177, P1.2-4, P2.1
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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:18 pm

Kakashi wrote:There is no resting level
Rested, suppressed, whatever.
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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Kakashi » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:28 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Kakashi wrote:There is no resting level
Rested, suppressed, whatever.

That's wrong

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:37 pm

Kakashi wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Kakashi wrote:There is no resting level
Rested, suppressed, whatever.

That's wrong
Prove it.
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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Strife1 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:07 pm

Kakashi wrote:
Piccolo Daimao is not 260

There is no resting level

On topic: Tenhinhan expected Goku would be much stronger than he was vs Piccolo and still thought he might have a chance to beat him

FP Goku >> Weighted Goku >>= Tenshinhan > FP Goku (Tenshinhan' Expectations) >> Goku Post Sacred Water >>= Piccolo Daimao
There is a resting level/supressed/etc.
It's literally shown when Raditz shows up to earth and begins fighting Goku and Piccolo.
Anyways it should go like this at BOZ, just in general.
Goku > Piccolo > Tenshinhan > Piccolo Daimao > Krillin > Yamcha > Yajirobe > Chaozu > Roshi

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Kakashi » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:21 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Kakashi wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:There is no resting level
Rested, suppressed, whatever.

That's wrong
Prove it.[/quote]
Burden of prove is on yours. Weighted Piccolo is 322 so it fits

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:20 am

Kakashi wrote:Burden of prove is on yours. Weighted Piccolo is 322 so it fits
As I said already. Tenshinhan has a higher BP of 250 according to the events of the 23rd Budokai so it's likely Yamcha's level is also higher than what the scouter displays. When I say prove it, I mean provide definitive proof that I'm wrong. Since you can't find any, you really can't claim I'm wrong.
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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by Bierhoff » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:42 am

I concede, but there is really no indication Krillin is even close to Tenshinhan.

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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by VegettoEX » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:44 am

"No. / Yeah. / Nuh-uh. / Prove it." is not a conversation. These are not worthwhile posts. If that's all you have to say, you have nothing to say. Please take a step back and put more thought into what you're trying to get across and add to the discussion.
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Re: Chiaotzu at the beginning of DBZ

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:25 am

VegettoEX wrote:"No. / Yeah. / Nuh-uh. / Prove it." is not a conversation. These are not worthwhile posts. If that's all you have to say, you have nothing to say. Please take a step back and put more thought into what you're trying to get across and add to the discussion.
Umm how is asking for proof not add anything to the discussion? It's a conversation starter. Furthermore, I have been answering with more than nuh-uh and uh-huh answers. I gave my reasoning after he responded to my prove it response.
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