The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:45 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Buu Saga Tenshinhan vs. Pui Pui. Battle takes place on Earth, who wins?
Tien got this. Pui pui = Vegeta saiyan arc imo

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:17 am

Kid Buu wrote:Kami Vs. Piccolo Daimao.

Since a lot o people put the latter at higher power, even with Kami flicking Goku away.
Kami takes this easy.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Cursed Lemon » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:50 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: No, the "n" belongs to Trunks.
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Add orange to that "N" :thumbup: .

Gotenks

It has Goten's full name. In the exact same order of letters.
You guys realize that we could use "Gohaku" and "Gokhan" for either the dance or Potarra, right? ;)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:44 pm

I go by the Jump numbers, so I think God has a battle power of 220 and that this represents him in the Saiyan arc. I also think this is Daimao's pre-youth battle power. Popo strongly implied that Goku was actually stronger than him in his dialogue, and that he was beating up Goku due to his better skills, and Daimao only flicks away Goku after he'd already exhausted himself, so I don't think that necessarily means he's stronger than Goku.

So I think Piccolo Daimao would win after his youth is restored.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:48 pm

Let's not forget Kami's performance at the 23rd Budokai. He was just below Goku and Piccolo who were significantly above Daimao.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:45 pm

Boo(Vegetto, Goten, Gohan, Trunks, and Piccolo) vs Whis
Burter and Jhesse fusion vs the entire cast(From Saiyan Arc to Early Cyborg). How far do Jurhesse get?

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:05 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Boo(Vegetto, Goten, Gohan, Trunks, and Piccolo) vs Whis
Burter and Jhesse fusion vs the entire cast(From Saiyan Arc to Early Cyborg). How far do Jurhesse get?
1. Whis kicks the shit outta Buu.
2. Juerhesse doesn't even get past Freeza's first form unless it's the result of the Potara, in which case, he get's to roughly 6% of Freeza's maximum and then dies.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:12 pm

Jurheese vs anybody: I'm gonna assume this is the dance fusion version. Anyway, by my estimates, Jeiter/Beice would be at about 500,000. So at best he can take on first form Freeza. It really depends though; Freeza has better techniques, but if the fusion didn't mess with Burter's speed, Jeiter/Beice should have a decisive advantage.

But then, given how tall Burter is and how short Jeice is, this shouldn't even work.

Whis vs Buugetto: meh. I really don't know here; I don't think I like BOG match-ups since we have NOTHING concrete for these characters' relative powers. The V-Jump statement is unreliable, and the only real feat Beers had (and he's who we compare SSG Goku and Whis to) was beating up an intoxicated Ultimate Gohan... and even that's in doubt, since he was originally a Super Saiyan and that scene was obviously written with Super Saiyan in mind.

For all we know, Beers is weaker than Buuhan. However, just on a hunch, I'm going to say Whis beats Buugetto, since it's customary for the next hyped up baddy to surpass the last strongest hero. That and no one thought to summon Vegetto to fight Beers.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:47 pm

Piccolo Buu Vs. Buff Buu.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:49 pm

Buff Buu.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:53 pm

Seeing as we had cross-overs a few pages ago. I'll like to know. How do you rank the PowerPuff Girls(Can be the American version or the PowerPuff Girls Z anime) compared to the Dragon Universe.

So what I'm asking is

PowerPower Girls(Cartoon version or Anime version. You can choose one) vs Dragon Universe(From Son Goku arc to Cell arc maybe). How many people do they beat.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:45 pm

They're too inconsistent to call thanks to cartoon physics. In general though, I think King Piccolo should be able to take them all down, as they've never displayed anything close to moon busting and are usually able to be hurt by simple big monsters with physical strength. I think their most impressive durability feat is tanking a nuke at the center of the explosion with only cartoon-ish minor injuries (covered in soot and burn marks with annoyed looks on their faces). King Piccolo should be capable of energy projection far in excess of that, since Roshi was supposed to be useless against him in all circumstances other than sealing him away.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:15 pm

I haven't seen them do anything close to planet busting level soooooooooooooo Saiyan arc Vegeta takes this.
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:50 am

Kid Buu wrote:Piccolo Buu Vs. Buff Buu.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts, RandomGuy96.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:11 am

Kid Buu wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Piccolo Buu Vs. Buff Buu.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts, RandomGuy96.
In my latest PL list, I actually had Buuccolo end up above Buuoshin, mostly by coincidence. But if I were to take the SS Gotenks implications more seriously, which I probably should, Piccolo and the kids would make basically no difference. I don't think the difference between Super and Buff is large, given Goku's comments, but it exists (5-10% maybe?).

But Buuccolo would win. Why? More experience, intelligence, and techniques. The Kamikaze Ghosts especially will be a big help. I find it unlikely that Buff Buu will even try to avoid them or realize he can just blast them out of the sky (even Buuhan didn't realize that... for whatever reason), given that he should be pretty close to Pure Buu in personality, which is bad for him, as these ghosts are extremely powerful, and Super Buu is known to use them as a desperation attack. Then we get a similar situation to SS Gotenks vs Super Buu in the ROSAT, only Buuccolo would know to completely wipe the pieces out rather than just disintegrate them. Other useful techniques include those energy rings and the suicide explosion.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:48 pm

I have South Boo easily above Boocollo.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:38 pm

Super Boo(Ginyu Force Eaten) vs Super Boo(Tullece Corps squad and Lord Slug men eaten)
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:39 pm

Ginyu Buu. He can stop time :mrgreen: .
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:53 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Ginyu Buu. He can stop time :mrgreen: .
And since he doesn't need oxygen to survive he could literally hold his breath forever and time would be stopped for eternity and thats fucking scary.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:55 pm

Not even gonna list the form of Buu, are you? I suppose it doesn't really matter. Tullece and Slug, as well as their men, have no real useful special abilities, while absorbing the Ginyus gives Buu paralysis, the ability to stop time, and body switching. Ginyu-Buu wins.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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