Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[Metalwario64]

Most of the Dragon Ball Z fans aren't going to buy these Blu-rays as they are cropped. If FUNimation LISTENED to the hardcore fans and remastered all 291 episode in 4:3 with the 3 audio tracks (dub with dub music, dub with Japanese music and Japanese track), it would satisfy them and they would buy the sets. But not when it's cropped. So it's best for the fans to stick with their Dragon Boxes.

That's not true the hardcore fanbase such as the people on this site make up a small portion of the fan base. The causal fanbase want's a cheap release that will fill their screens and they want the image to be grain free.

All the casual fanbase wants is what they saw on Toonami years ago. If they wanted a "modernization", Kai would be more successful.

[KingofWisdom]

Their problem with Kai is the updated English dub, and to a lesser degree, the lack of a Bruce Faulconer Productions/Mark Menza/Nathan Johnson soundtrack.

[dbboxkaifan]

http://www.up1usa.com/Details/D1857-Dra ... yb+Blu-ray
I think this confirms it is Region Free for the UK (yay ) but for some reason it's cheaper shipping to the uk than then us. Strange. Still Cheaper on Amazon though.

Oh, yeah and Season 2 will contain episodes 40-74.

The cover with the proper colourisation looks really good and I just noticed that it'll be a fatty Blu-ray rather than a slim Blu-ray pack which I was expecting based on Amazon.com image product.

Their price is slightly more than what Amazon.com's charging and I've never knew about Up1USA so I'll stick to Amazon.

On Amazon.com the cover is yellowed and brightened the hell up but Up1USA has the proper cover.

Amazon.com


Up1USA


Colours and brightness on the actual Blu-ray might be a bit different plus YouTube compressed videos are hardly accurate comparisons.

[snaku]

Watching this makes me sad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moAy02J2fd8.

I'll never let go of my Level Blus.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

Most of the Dragon Ball Z fans aren't going to buy these Blu-rays as they are cropped. If FUNimation LISTENED to the hardcore fans and remastered all 291 episode in 4:3 with the 3 audio tracks (dub with dub music, dub with Japanese music and Japanese track), it would satisfy them and they would buy the sets. But not when it's cropped. So it's best for the fans to stick with their Dragon Boxes.

That's not true the hardcore fanbase such as the people on this site make up a small portion of the fan base. The causal fanbase want's a cheap release that will fill their screens and they want the image to be grain free.

All the casual fanbase wants is what they saw on Toonami years ago. If they wanted a "modernization", Kai would be more successful.

If they wanted what they saw on toonami, they could just buy Funi's old DVD singles. Has NEPs (US broadcast version), uncropped video, same exact broadcasted episodes (no redubs, has the sound effects from cakemix studio that the OBs and season blu ray sets don't, etc), and the decade-ago kind of quality/feel if you know what I mean (like roland_elog said haha)

[Sin]

Colours and brightness on the actual Blu-ray might be a bit different plus YouTube compressed videos are hardly accurate comparisons.

Except this is 2013 and YouTube doesn't compress to the point of altering colours/details when video is available in the correct format. Sorry to put a downer on it, but the colour/brightness almost definitely won't be any different on the release, at least going on what we know.

[kei17]

Colours and brightness on the actual Blu-ray might be a bit different plus YouTube compressed videos are hardly accurate comparisons.

As many people have already stated, YouTube doesn't change colors or brightness. It will be the same as what you see in the trailer.

[dbboxkaifan]

There are times when YouTube conversions have gone wrong and in this DBZ 2013 Blu-ray trailer the brightness looks inconsistent and so do the colours.

Screens with higher contrast and improper colours

Spoiler:

Screen with toned down brightness and normalised colours (it's how it looks like to me)

Spoiler:

I don't want to blame the exaggerated contrast and yellowness on YouTube/Google but I'm willing to give it benefit of the doubt until I watch it myself on the actual Blu-rays, and if it remains like this then it is an issue.

As anyone can see Nappa and Vegeta don't suffer from the same problems as the three screens above so it's a bit odd.

Dragon Ball Kai's HD remaster wasn't good for what it was trying to be -- High Definition but the colours and brightness never came down to this level.

[kei17]

The insanely high contrasted shots are all from DBZ episode 4. YouTube doesn't have any magical features that automatically detect and enhance shots from one specific episode that are scattered randomly, so it's FUNi's remaster what's inconsistent here. I'm 100% sure that the final product will look the same.

I recommend that you give up defending this absolute shit by using sophistry based on your poor knowledge about video production.

[samuraix123]

I'm sure you guys have talked over this a thousand times but is there anything Funimation can/would do about the Japanese audio? Because I believe someone said it sounded a-lot better a long time ago than it does today?

[Fulicer]

I'm sure you guys have talked over this a thousand times but is there anything Funimation can/would do about the Japanese audio? Because I believe someone said it sounded a-lot better a long time ago than it does today?

That's because the original broadcasts used the original sound masters. Not the case for the DVD/blu-ray versions of the original Japanese Z.

Funimation can't do anything without the original masters, and no one knows where they are. The (Japanese DBOX) movie releases use the original audio masters though. They could use the original broadcast audio from a fan, and kei was doing something in regards to sending them some VHS tapes. But I don't know if that's a guarantee.

[Metalwario64]

If they wanted what they saw on toonami, they could just buy Funi's old DVD singles. Has NEPs (US broadcast version), uncropped video, same exact broadcasted episodes (no redubs, has the sound effects from cakemix studio that the OBs and season blu ray sets don't, etc), and the decade-ago kind of quality/feel if you know what I mean (like roland_elog said haha)

Kai has made it clear that the average customer doesn't do research, so most of them likely don't even know they exist. Also, getting 100 single DVDs takes up way more space, and is way less convenient than getting the orange bricks.

[samuraix123]

I wonder if this release will have Goku's full Kamehameha blast at cell? In Funimation's original version when Goku is about to use the Kamehameha wave against he says the complete line. but in the orange bricks set it's completely different.
Original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI-L-JUVHiY
Orange Bricks - Notice around the 45 second mark Goku doesn't say ''Me'' it just fades out.
Warning crap quality ahead! may cause serious eye problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La480V_YeW0
Also if I'm not mistaken Android 19 originally had a voice like filter for his voice no? I'm just curious if they'll fix that^

[Roland_ELoG]

Buu and 19 had filters over their voices. #19 had the weird robotic filter, and Buu had a sort of deeper sound. The redub removed those sound filters and also a few added sound effects that were part of the Faulconer Prod. track (ie: the "hmmmahhh!" sound that was added to the instantaneous movement technique in the broadcast version).

The redub of the Majin Buu arc adds so many strange bits of audio. There's one slow panning scene over unconscious Goku and presumably dead Gohan (while Vegeta fights Fat Buu) that had a whole piece of narration added to it. I liked the broadcast version, with a nice atmospheric piece of music and no voice.

Here's the thing; just like the fans of the Japanese version have their Dragon Boxes, I'm a fan of the broadcast dub and I have my singles. When I watch Dragon Ball Z in English it's always the broadcast version for nostalgia's sake. Anytime I watch a new release I do so in Japanese. So the only thing I want out of a new release is remastered video quality like the Level sets, so I can watch the show in Japanese as if the film was inside my own retinas.

EDIT: Good lord you were not kidding about the video quality. Is that even BRIGHTER than the actual season set? What the fuck did he do to the video!?

Sorry this post is phrased so weirdly.... I'm kind of sick today.

[Metalwario64]

I wonder if this release will have Goku's full Kamehameha blast at cell? In Funimation's original version when Goku is about to use the Kamehameha wave against he says the complete line. but in the orange bricks set it's completely different.
Original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI-L-JUVHiY
Orange Bricks - Notice around the 45 second mark Goku doesn't say ''Me'' it just fades out.
Warning crap quality ahead! may cause serious eye problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La480V_YeW0
Also if I'm not mistaken Android 19 originally had a voice like filter for his voice no? I'm just curious if they'll fix that^

I doubt it. They slapped the orange brick audio on the Dragon Boxes, and did so for the level sets as well. It seems they'll only use their orange brick audio mix in the future, and they see no real reason for them to do otherwise.

[Roland_ELoG]

I doubt it. They slapped the orange brick audio on the Dragon Boxes, and did so for the level sets as well. It seems they'll only use their orange brick audio mix in the future, and they see no real reason for them to do otherwise.

Yeah it is highly unlikely they will add the voice filters back in for any future release. Or take out the added lines.

[samuraix123]

Buu and 19 had filters over their voices. #19 had the weird robotic filter, and Buu had a sort of deeper sound. The redub removed those sound filters and also a few added sound effects that were part of the Faulconer Prod. track (ie: the "hmmmahhh!" sound that was added to the instantaneous movement technique in the broadcast version).

The redub of the Majin Buu arc adds so many strange bits of audio. There's one slow panning scene over unconscious Goku and presumably dead Gohan (while Vegeta fights Fat Buu) that had a whole piece of narration added to it. I liked the broadcast version, with a nice atmospheric piece of music and no voice.

Here's the thing; just like the fans of the Japanese version have their Dragon Boxes, I'm a fan of the broadcast dub and I have my singles. When I watch Dragon Ball Z in English it's always the broadcast version for nostalgia's sake. Anytime I watch a new release I do so in Japanese. So the only thing I want out of a new release is remastered video quality like the Level sets, so I can watch the show in Japanese as if the film was inside my own retinas.

EDIT: Good lord you were not kidding about the video quality. Is that even BRIGHTER than the actual season set? What the fuck did he do to the video!?

Sorry this post is phrased so weirdly.... I'm kind of sick today.

I would actually love to have a conversation with you via Pm about the cooler's revenge audio from the original bilngual dvd to funimation's ''Remastering'' audio. believe me, it's all kinds a messed up lol

[jjgp1112]

Buu and 19 had filters over their voices. #19 had the weird robotic filter, and Buu had a sort of deeper sound. The redub removed those sound filters and also a few added sound effects that were part of the Faulconer Prod. track (ie: the "hmmmahhh!" sound that was added to the instantaneous movement technique in the broadcast version).

The redub of the Majin Buu arc adds so many strange bits of audio. There's one slow panning scene over unconscious Goku and presumably dead Gohan (while Vegeta fights Fat Buu) that had a whole piece of narration added to it. I liked the broadcast version, with a nice atmospheric piece of music and no voice.

Here's the thing; just like the fans of the Japanese version have their Dragon Boxes, I'm a fan of the broadcast dub and I have my singles. When I watch Dragon Ball Z in English it's always the broadcast version for nostalgia's sake. Anytime I watch a new release I do so in Japanese. So the only thing I want out of a new release is remastered video quality like the Level sets, so I can watch the show in Japanese as if the film was inside my own retinas.

EDIT: Good lord you were not kidding about the video quality. Is that even BRIGHTER than the actual season set? What the fuck did he do to the video!?

Sorry this post is phrased so weirdly.... I'm kind of sick today.

I would actually love to have a conversation with you via Pm about the cooler's revenge audio from the original bilngual dvd to funimation's ''Remastering'' audio. believe me, it's all kinds a messed up lol

Oh yeah, the music mix is all fucked up on the Cooler's Revenge remastered version for whatever reason. No clue why, because Lord Slug and the first Broly movie were just fine.

[samuraix123]

Thank God! Another person knows of this! I wonder how they messed it up as bad as they did? The music is out of place in a-lot of scenes and I mean a-lot! sadly...I know Funimation will never fix it either. luckily a friend made me a correct version with the Blu-ray quality and original bilingual audio track but it's sad Funi won't.

Edit- I actually made a video a long time ago even posted it on here but my computer messed up and I lost it.

[Kojiro Sasaki]

Here's an example of "proper framing".

Actually, I used improper word. I meant that the "green option" is the only way to see everything that was shot on film.