The only Boo that was around was Fat Boo, I mean he could be talking about Kid Boo but Kid Boo is Oob now so in all honesty its all up to how you want to see it. Its a pretty vague statement being that there were different variations of Boo during his rampage in Z and mind you none of the characters refer to the Boos like we do, well hardly anyway. To us its Super Boo, Kid Boo etc while to them its just the fat boo and the skinny boo/the evil Majin Boo and the good Majin Boo whenever both creatures were present at the same time.
In GT when Rildo was beating on Gohan, after Oob saves him he was perfectly unharmed and says he was fine with a big smile on his face. He was only getting beaten up because he was hit by the General's metal beam thingy.
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No, but the question is, which Buu? The one that is most worthy of actually being called "Majin Buu"? Or the only Buu that's still around, and the one they've been calling "Majin Buu" for over ten years now, and probably the first person the average Z fighter would think if you said something like "Majin Buu did X"?hleV wrote:Would Goku say that Rildo is stronger than Boo if Boo was stronger than Rildo?
I never decisively said that he was referring to Mr. Buu. I actually think he's referring to Pure. But that doesn't mean that you HAVE to think like that, or Rildo is "at least stronger than" Pure Buu.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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But would Goku say that Rildo is stronger than Majin Boo if Goku had fought a Boo that was stronger than Rildo?RandomGuy96 wrote:No, but the question is, which Buu?hleV wrote:Would Goku say that Rildo is stronger than Boo if Boo was stronger than Rildo?
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I don't think Goku would be comparing someone that appears to have incredible power to the weakest form of Majin Boo. That'd be like saying Goku could've been comparing Dabra to any Cell from Imperfect to Super Perfect Cell--when we know he's not referring to anything less than Perfect Cell. Sure, he could be, but story-wise, it makes more sense to compare him to one of the more powerful forms of the previous enemy.
So with that, I think Rildo is more powerful than the strongest version of Majin Boo.
So with that, I think Rildo is more powerful than the strongest version of Majin Boo.
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Yajirobe is a little stronger, but Yamcha is more skilled. So, Yamcha wins.Kid Buu wrote:Yamcha Vs. Yajirobe at the end of DB.
Trunks beats Goku without using his hands.Cursed Lemon wrote:SSJ Goku on Namek vs. SSJ Trunks (pre ROSAT)
Piccolo loses after a tough fight.Zombie wrote:Piccolo (DBUniverse/Eoz) vs Dabura.
Gohan used Super Saiyan later, so Rild was fighting against base Gohan, not Ultimate Gohan. "Ultimate Super Saiyan Gohan" doesn't make sense.Zombie wrote:Rildo demolished a stronger Chou Gohan....
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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It's actually different. In the case of Dabra, Goku said that he's probably around Cell. Not stronger or weaker. Around could be treated as in the range of power one has gone through, while stronger would likely mean above that range of power.Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:That'd be like saying Goku could've been comparing Dabra to any Cell from Imperfect to Super Perfect Cell--when we know he's not referring to anything less than Perfect Cell. Sure, he could be, but story-wise, it makes more sense to compare him to one of the more powerful forms of the previous enemy.
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I think Rildo is around either Kid Boo, Fat Boo, or Mr. Boo level.
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I know it's different. My point is it makes no sense to compare them to the weakest version of the previous enemy, which would be the case if one thinks Goku is really talking about Mr. Boo, or in Dabra's case, Imperfect/Semi Cell. It'd be a fruitless mention. Also, Goku does indeed say Dabra is probably around Cell, but later says he's way stronger than whatever level he had in mind when comparing him to Cell.
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But Boo is weird. Personally, I see 3 possible Majin Boos:Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:it makes no sense to compare them to the weakest version of the previous enemy, which would be the case if one thinks Goku is really talking about Mr. Boo
Mr. Boo - the only Boo left, and the current version of Majin Boo.
Gohan Boo - the strongest version of Majin Boo.
Pure Boo - Majin Boo's true form, without any exterior influence in his power.
As for Dabra, Goku's comment about Dabra being stronger than they though is based on Dabra showing magical abilities. Remember, skills are also another important factor on someone's overall power, battle powers are not everything sometimes.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Yes, skill is important. However, wouldn't it make more sense to mention Dabra as being more "effective" or "a lot tougher" rather than way stronger? As far as I know, magic shouldn't have any direct correlation to raw power--and from everything I've read throughout, way stronger is a reference to ones actual power. Anyway, I think it's pretty funny how we all used the "tougher than I thought" line before we knew the original dialogue. That line actually makes sense than the original, I think.
Super Saiyan Trunks would own Super Saiyan Goku on namek. I never thought Gohan's line put them at equal levels.
Super Saiyan Trunks would own Super Saiyan Goku on namek. I never thought Gohan's line put them at equal levels.
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Tullence vs LSSJ Broly(Movie 8 )
How much fruit until he matches Broly's power?
How much fruit until he matches Broly's power?
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Could he continously gain power from the fruit? Haven't seen the movie in awhile, but was a power-up noted after he ate the 2nd fruit?
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I believe he could. Did he eat the 2nd fruit before or after he Genki Dama(The one that he destroyed)Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Could he continously gain power from the fruit? Haven't seen the movie in awhile, but was a power-up noted after he ate the 2nd fruit?
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Just checked. Tullece ate the 2nd fruit after he destroyed the Genki-Dama.
If he could continuously gain power from the fruits, I'm guessing it'd take a good amount to equal Broly. He'd probably explode from too much power
If he could continuously gain power from the fruits, I'm guessing it'd take a good amount to equal Broly. He'd probably explode from too much power
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Or burst like Mr. Creotose from The Meaning of Life.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Okay, I have one:
Goku (Saiyan Saga, no Kaio-Ken) Vs Gurd (No Paralysis Arts)
We know Gurd is weaker than 13-14,000 based on what was stated, but is he on-par or weaker than Goku after his training with Kaio? He was able to stop the more powerful Gohan and Krillin, but he doesn't have that ability here.
Goku (Saiyan Saga, no Kaio-Ken) Vs Gurd (No Paralysis Arts)
We know Gurd is weaker than 13-14,000 based on what was stated, but is he on-par or weaker than Goku after his training with Kaio? He was able to stop the more powerful Gohan and Krillin, but he doesn't have that ability here.
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I think they're around the same strength. So Goku wins.Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Okay, I have one:
Goku (Saiyan Saga, no Kaio-Ken) Vs Gurd (No Paralysis Arts)
We know Gurd is weaker than 13-14,000 based on what was stated, but is he on-par or weaker than Goku after his training with Kaio? He was able to stop the more powerful Gohan and Krillin, but he doesn't have that ability here.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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SSJ future Vegeta vs SSJ Goku (Namek).
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I don't think SS Future Vegeta is a thing.Zombie wrote:SSJ future Vegeta vs SSJ Goku (Namek).
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Wasn't he shown as SSJ when he dies in HoT?
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