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by UltimateHammerBro » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:08 pm
eledoremassis02 wrote:Metalwario64 wrote:It's funny. I posted this a while ago. I made it before the new Blu-ray's footage was unveiled (I slapped the BttF logo on it after the fact), and I was shockingly accurate.
Except I think mine's backgrounds are actually much better than the water colored, layered crap on the new Blu-rays.
Let's team up and re-master DBZ
To be fair, I'd really like to see a fan-remastered version, taking the Dragon Box footage, upscaling it to HD and color correcting it so it looks like the original broadcast.
I've only seen one Dragon Box upscale release, and it didn't color correct.
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by samuraix123 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:39 pm
Hey guys I got a question. I been searching for a while on Walmart for the new Blu-ray release of Dragonball Z and I have yet to find it on there for pre-order. What gives? I seen it on there just a couple days ago...
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by KingofWisdom » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:04 pm
You're right. The listing has been removed from Walmart for some reason.
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by Kuwabara » Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:35 pm
Great, let's hope listings from other sites get removed as well!
This is the episode of when Gokuh enrages himself after Freezer talk shit about Kuririn
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by dbboxkaifan » Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:50 pm
Kuwabara wrote:Great, let's hope listings from other sites get removed as well!
Hoping or leaving negative "reviews" isn't really going to change anything on FUNimation's perspective but if you actually wanted to make your voice heard you'd send them an email, contact them via Facebook or something.
These purists are somewhat disappointing.
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by Kuwabara » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:02 pm
How are you so sure I haven't contacted them? And you're disappointed by people wanting a proper release? I'm disappointed by people knowingly perpetuating a piss poor representation of the series!
This is the episode of when Gokuh enrages himself after Freezer talk shit about Kuririn
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by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:21 pm
I doubt it's cancelled, but if it is, then the only thing I'll find truly disappointing will be the select few that are no doubt going to literally go 'HA HA, YOU DIDN'T GET THE RELEASE YOU WANTED' to the people that actually were looking forward to this.
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by dbboxkaifan » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:32 pm
Kuwabara wrote:How are you so sure I haven't contacted them? And you're disappointed by people wanting a proper release? I'm disappointed by people knowingly perpetuating a piss poor representation of the series!
It just kind of bothers me that people keep on bitching on forums/amazon and yet they didn't even support the DBZ Levels or sent FUNimation complaints about cancelling it or making these new 16x9 AR.
Would have I preferred the Levels rather than this? Yeah but from what I've seen I'll enjoy this one too.
The definitive version would be the Dragon Boxes Z remastered in 1080p HD with the NEPs, Japanese credits and clean Japanese audio on Blu-ray / Digital Copy but the Levels come a bit close though just in terms of picture quality.
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by Kuwabara » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:24 pm
dbboxkaifan wrote:It just kind of bothers me that people keep on bitching on forums/amazon and yet they didn't even support the DBZ Levels or sent FUNimation complaints about cancelling it or making these new 16x9 AR.
I agree with you on this point at least. Even though I don't see how you could look forward to these new Blu-rays, people that bitch about them without having bought the Levels aren't that much better. I on the other hand bought 1.1 and 1.2 and eagerly awaited more, so I felt a little slighted when they were canceled. Same thing with the Ultimate Uncuts being canceled in favor of the Orange Bricks.
Gyt Kaliba wrote:I doubt it's cancelled, but if it is, then the only thing I'll find truly disappointing will be the select few that are no doubt going to literally go 'HA HA, YOU DIDN'T GET THE RELEASE YOU WANTED' to the people that actually were looking forward to this.
I honestly don't see a problem with this, sorry.
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by Gaffer Tape » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:49 pm
Kuwabara wrote:dbboxkaifan wrote:It just kind of bothers me that people keep on bitching on forums/amazon and yet they didn't even support the DBZ Levels or sent FUNimation complaints about cancelling it or making these new 16x9 AR.
I agree with you on this point at least. Even though I don't see how you could look forward to these new Blu-rays, people that bitch about them without having bought the Levels aren't that much better. I on the other hand bought 1.1 and 1.2 and eagerly awaited more, so I felt a little slighted when they were canceled. Same thing with the Ultimate Uncuts being canceled in favor of the Orange Bricks.
I don't even agree with this. If FUNimation wanted people to buy the Level sets, then they shouldn't have competed with their own damned product. I'm sorry, but I had just finished investing a few hundred dollars into collecting the Dragon Boxes. I didn't have the space or money to buy another release, especially when I considered the DBoxes to be the overall superior product and value. And if FUNimation can really make that kind of a business decision, and then believe lower than expected sales were because of people holding out for a 16:9 aspect ratio FROM THE FUTURE, then, I'm sorry, but they're idiots.
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by KingofWisdom » Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:27 am
The Dragon Boxes themselves coming off the Orange Bricks, which some fans bought despite disliking the remastering for it being a consistent release. Then there were movie/TV special rereleases, Dragon Ball and GT bricks, Kai, etc. It seems backwards to me that the fans are somehow at fault for not having one grand on the side to throw at FUNimation Dragon Ball releases. There shouldn't have even been another full screen Z release immediately after the Dragon Boxes (at least give us a break in between the releases).
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by helsinkirocks » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:42 am
My contribution to this topic-
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by kei17 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:45 am
dbboxkaifan wrote:It just kind of bothers me that people keep on bitching on forums/amazon and yet they didn't even support the DBZ Levels
Why do you keep blaming the victim to defend FUNimation? Seriously, this cropped shit isn't worth doing it.
or sent FUNimation complaints about cancelling it or making these new 16x9 AR.
This makes zero sense.
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by Roland_ELoG » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:21 am
helsinkirocks wrote:My contribution to this topic-
How many colors is that? 256? That's SO MANY COLORS!
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by Gonstead » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:43 am
helsinkirocks wrote:My contribution to this topic-
That's about as close as I can imagine before all we get is just a simple blank white screen XD
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by Black_Anime_Fan » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:45 am
Roland_ELoG wrote:helsinkirocks wrote:My contribution to this topic-
*really bright image*
How many colors is that? 256? That's SO MANY COLORS!
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by SaiyaJedi » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:32 am
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Needs a "PAST / FUTURE" comparison for effect.
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by dbboxkaifan » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:06 pm
kei17 wrote:Why do you keep blaming the victim to defend FUNimation? Seriously, this cropped shit isn't worth doing it.
It is if the customer likes it.
or sent FUNimation complaints about cancelling it or making these new 16x9 AR.
This makes zero sense.[/quote]
I didn't proof read that, what I meant was; Let FUNimation know that the DBZ Levels in 4x3 AR were better (complain letter) and that they'd be vastly superior than the 16x9 AR Blu-rays.
Sorry guys, this isn't Microsoft so don't expect them to change it to 4x3 AR for the rage that there's here and on Amazon US.
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by KingofWisdom » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:16 pm
We did try to get a 4:3 AR for these sets, but FUNimation was likely going to make them widescreen from the beginning. They're not going to go back now. Properly remastering the footage is too expensive to justify cheap box sets, which is the only thing casual fans will buy. The anger is justified.
"Those transformations insane,
They wanna turn up hours late and steal the show from the pros who had to die for the name." - Yamcha (DBWTF: Z-Rap 3)
"Over saturation is easy. Just drag the slider to the right and there you are: instant interest. And certainly, the majority of the public likes saturated color images. In fact, if you want to quickly create a popular image, simply over saturate the colors and increase the contrast. While you may not achieve a sophisticated image, you will achieve an image that will please a less demanding audience." - Alain Briot
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by qjz123 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:35 pm
KingofWisdom wrote:Properly remastering the footage is too expensive to justify cheap box sets, which is the only thing casual fans will buy. The anger is justified.
I believe Steve Franco said a while back that Dbz would never generate the sales required to justify a full blown restoration. I guess he was right.
Kendamu wrote:AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.
