Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by Beji » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:32 am

Roland_ELoG wrote:Do you want to see the original Star Wars? Do you have a VHS player?

This is the future of Dragon Ball Z!
Star Wars did get a DVD release that was unaltered... Also I think that can be said by many films as time goes on and they don't get a Blu-ray release... Technically it would be the end of all of them as well. And that carries over when there is something higher than Blu-ray. Eventually the media release stops. Digital downloads for anything that can't be upscaled/remastered any higher and that's where they would stay unless they have a huge fanbase that would buy into a product that wouldn't look too different but is demanded anyway.
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EDIT: I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea on my stance either. I would LOVE a 4:3 release (ex.the level sets) but I don't think there is a market for a great remastering with a 4:3 aspect ratio. It makes me a little upset it probably wont happen but in the end it's still the same show which I enjoy very much and doesn't need to be remastered for me or anyone else to enjoy it. As much as I'd want a better release I don't think they are doing fans a disservice as much as they are just trying to be a business and make money. I'm not sure if this is the best way of going about it but it's for a profit not to please the hardcore fans like us. I can only be thankful for anything new and improved and steer clear from the new and not as improved..

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:00 am

Beji wrote: Star Wars did get a DVD release that was unaltered...
Not so! I reference two websites. First, Wikipedia: "A New Hope was released on DVD on September 21, 2004, in a box set with The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and a bonus disc of supplementary material. The movies were digitally restored and remastered, and more changes were made by George Lucas."

Now I cross reference with http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/arti ... t-one.html which details the changes between the old Star Wars VHS/LD, Remastered, DVD release, and Blu-ray.

The same thing has happened to some Disney movies, like Lion King, when they made the move to DVD.
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Post by TheOverlyMadHatter » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:16 am

Roland_ELoG wrote:
Beji wrote: Star Wars did get a DVD release that was unaltered...
Not so! I reference two websites. First, Wikipedia: "A New Hope was released on DVD on September 21, 2004, in a box set with The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and a bonus disc of supplementary material. The movies were digitally restored and remastered, and more changes were made by George Lucas."

Now I cross reference with http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/arti ... t-one.html which details the changes between the old Star Wars VHS/LD, Remastered, DVD release, and Blu-ray.
Funnily enough, the Star Wars movies DID receive a DVD release with the unaltered theatrical films. In a limited run (does this sound familiar to anyone?) of 2-disc sets for each movie; one disc with the 2004-remastered, and the other with the Laserdisc versions thrown onto them. Though, the quality of the footage was lackluster for DVD, especially in comparison to the remastered versions.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:21 am

I've bought the limited editions of the original trilogy, saw both versions of the movies, and I still don't understand why the Star Wars fans are so angry. I found the new versions better.
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Post by TheOverlyMadHatter » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:01 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I've bought the limited editions of the original trilogy, saw both versions of the movies, and I still don't understand why the Star Wars fans are so angry. I found the new versions better.
While I'm not "angry" per se, part of me just cringes when needless changes are made, such as Greedo shooting first, and more recently a "NOOO!" inserted in the Blu-Ray version of one of the last scenes of Return of the Jedi. I'm a bit more lenient when the addition of CGI to make older movies a bit more convincing (such as the replacement of the Yoda puppet in The Phantom Menace) and I honestly appreciated the replacement of Yub Nub, but I'd always rather watch the original. I can say the same of the Dragon Ball Original/Dub dilemma. I guess that sentiment kinda comes with being a purist.

Yes, fans tend to overreact to the slightest change in the films (rapes of childhood and whatnot), but it'd really be nice if the product closest to the original was easily accessible.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:13 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I've bought the limited editions of the original trilogy, saw both versions of the movies, and I still don't understand why the Star Wars fans are so angry. I found the new versions better.
That's why they're angry. Han Solo's torso twitching uncannily out of the way of the most poorly aimed shot ever fired by man or alien? That shit is inexcusable.

There are other changes which aren't intrinsically BAD, but they're CHANGES. Having more spaceships in the Death Star trench run is kind of cool, but it misrepresents the original film. Nobody is a fan of Star Wars because of The Extra Aliens in the Cantina(TM), so why make that change?

I'll take a quote from a DVD comparison of the Lion King:
"Under no circumstances, though, should an original form be allowed to disappear or go unreleased. Think ahead, 41 years from now, when a 50th Anniversary of The Lion King arrives on some kind of format. Are people going to want the film that was re-edited 8 years after theatrical release, or the original theatrical presentation?"
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:46 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:I can't help but feel like some people here (not naming names) haven't actually looked at the screenshot comparisons.
People have seen the comparisons.

It's just that the hardcore/purists need to stop acting like a bunch of elitist assholes who think they know what's best for the next person. It's a choice, get over it.
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Post by B » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:12 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:It's just that the hardcore/purists need to stop acting like a bunch of elitist assholes who think they know what's best for the next person. It's a choice, get over it.
Technically, it's a choice that never existed until FUNimation inexplicably brought it to the table in 2007. If the Orange Bricks were 4:3 and yet still remastered like shit, I doubt there would have complaints like, "Y'know, these destroyed lines and details and washed out colors are great, but why isn't the picture stretched out, and why do I have to look at all these guys' chins?!"

It's all marketing nonsense. There's an extensive Orange Brick trailer for Season 1 where Chris Sabat narrates the remastering process with much authority and calmness; he's not screaming like a monster truck announcer as he does in the individual trailers. He uses buzzwords like "cinematic" and "definitive" and sounds like he knows what he's talking about. It's quite a beautiful con, and it's all done to sell you a garbage product. It's not a real choice; they're hyping something and getting those not in the know/that don't care excited, and when the actual flaws are pointed out to those people plain-as-day, they get defensive because they don't want to be seen as foolish for eating up crap.

Where is the choice to own and watch unedited DBZ Episode 1?
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:30 pm

Got to say, the more and more I watch the trailer the more stocked I become! Just hope shipping isn't a pain.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:54 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:It's just that the hardcore/purists need to stop acting like a bunch of elitist assholes who think they know what's best for the next person. It's a choice, get over it.
Um... what choice is that exactly? I certainly don't see me having a choice. FUNimation was the only one with a choice, and they chose to take their hacksaws to DBZ. And as one of those "elitist assholes" you're referring to, I feel free to suggest you please drop the attitude because I don't enjoy being insulted. If you think these are great, well, fine, that's YOUR choice. But people who do know something about film and care about film preservation do have legitimate grievances against the direction in which this product has been taken, and we're going to air them. Learn to deal with it.
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Post by SupremeSSJ » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:59 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Roland_ELoG wrote:I can't help but feel like some people here (not naming names) haven't actually looked at the screenshot comparisons.
People have seen the comparisons.

It's just that the hardcore/purists need to stop acting like a bunch of elitist assholes who think they know what's best for the next person. It's a choice, get over it.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:11 pm

Tape @ You've got to understand that all the whining and moaning is annoying and repetitive, I'm just tired of it honestly.

Everyone has already got the message and still some jackasses on Amazon and whatnot think it wasn't made clear enough before they decided to "review".

For things such as, Tom & Jerry Golden Collection: Volume Two [Blu-ray] every single customer was in their right to complain about it because it wasn't going to be actually complete and unedited. In this case they did it properly whereas here FUNimation was bloody clear that the aspect ratio's going to be 16x9 widescreen and with nine sets in total.

Is FUNimation doing false advertisement? No.
What's the standard TV aspect ratio nowadays? Widescreen (16x9).

P.S.: If people really detest 16x9 AR on Dragon Ball media then I guess Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans (BD & DVD), Dragon Ball: Goku and Friends (DVD), Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock (DVD), Dragon Box: The Movies (DVD), Dragon Ball Kai (DVD & TV), Dragon Ball: Ultimate Blast (BD & DVD) and Dragon Ball: Battle of Z (BD & DVD) will be on the "hatelist".
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Post by Metalwario64 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:17 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:P.S.: If people really detest 16x9 AR on Dragon Ball media then I guess Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans (BD & DVD), Dragon Ball: Goku and Friends (DVD), Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock (DVD), Dragon Box: The Movies (DVD), Dragon Ball Kai (DVD & TV), Dragon Ball: Ultimate Blast (BD & DVD) and Dragon Ball: Battle of Z (BD & DVD) will be on the "hatelist".
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You don't know that Z was never made for 16x9, while all of those things you listed were? You really thought you "got us" with that? :?
dbboxkaifan wrote:What's the standard TV aspect ratio nowadays? Widescreen (16x9)..
It wasn't when Dragon Ball was made. Plus, as said millions of times now, there's a button on your remote called 'zoom'. Then you have your choice.
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Post by Ajay » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:18 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:P.S.: If people really detest 16x9 AR on Dragon Ball media then I guess Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans (BD & DVD), Dragon Ball: Goku and Friends (DVD), Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock (DVD), Dragon Box: The Movies (DVD), Dragon Ball Kai (DVD & TV), Dragon Ball: Ultimate Blast (BD & DVD) and Dragon Ball: Battle of Z (BD & DVD) will be on the "hatelist".
If it was made in 16:9 then why would I have an issue? It's the 4:3 to 16:9 that bugs me. With the movies it's not really an issue as, from what I seem to recall reading, it was animated with both ARs in mind so it works both ways.
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Post by Black_Anime_Fan » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:22 pm

Kinda wondering, but where do you guys suppose the money goes towards if this release is successful?
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Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:34 pm

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No, you're right. The TV series works just as well in widescreen as the movies do.
Kinda wondering, but where do you guys suppose the money goes towards if this release is successful?
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Post by B » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:44 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:P.S.: If people really detest 16x9 AR on Dragon Ball media
People really detest "16x9 AR" on 4:3 media.
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Post by MarcFBR » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:02 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:Funimation's publicly traded parent company, Navarre. And by extension their shareholders.
Funimation isn't owned by Navarre, it's a privately held company owned by a group of investors (under the umbrella title of Group 1200 Media,) of which Fukunaga is the 'face' (and I believe the top investor, but I may be misremembering that detail.)
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Post by Ringworm128 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:14 pm

P.S.: If people really detest 16x9 AR on Dragon Ball media then I guess Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans (BD & DVD), Dragon Ball: Goku and Friends (DVD), Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock (DVD), Dragon Box: The Movies (DVD), Dragon Ball Kai (DVD & TV), Dragon Ball: Ultimate Blast (BD & DVD) and Dragon Ball: Battle of Z (BD & DVD) will be on the "hatelist".
The difference is that those were made for 16:9. Yes the movies were animated in 4:3 but they put everything where it could still be seen in 16:9, you could tell the movies were made with widescreen in mind. The TV series was animated for 4:3.

People would feel just the same way if it were a 16:9 show being cropped to 4:3.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:36 pm

MarcFBR wrote:
Roland_ELoG wrote:Funimation's publicly traded parent company, Navarre. And by extension their shareholders.
Funimation isn't owned by Navarre, it's a privately held company owned by a group of investors (under the umbrella title of Group 1200 Media,) of which Fukunaga is the 'face' (and I believe the top investor, but I may be misremembering that detail.)
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