Discussion specifically regarding the "refreshed" TV version of DBZ created in Japan for its 20th anniversary, including individual threads for each episode.
Goku it was interesting to see Goku fight someone who was as strong, if not stronger than he was.
Um....not to sound rude but did you forget the past 6 arcs? From Tien arc to Cell Arc.
Blu-ray_Mistress wrote:Not much, considering there wasn't that much filler to begin with when you think about it.
There is a lot. You have Otherworld, Saiyanman, Lots of it in the Babidi spaceship little thingy fight(Dabura vs Gohan for example), Majin Vegeta vs Goku, Gohan and Kaioshin vs Boo, SSj3 Goku fillers, Gotenks fillers, Gohan fillers, Vegetto filler(base Vegetto), and pretty much most of Pure Boo fight in the anime was filler.
It's funny. A friend and I started thinking about a Kai version of the Buu saga after seeing a rerun the Vegetto filler episodes on TV three years ago.
It would make sense to cut out the Otherworld Tournament seeing it was a filler saga and Kai is trying to be more faithful to the manga. They did cut out the Garlic Jr saga, so cutting it out would make sense. I think the battle with Buu and the Kai's will likely stay given that it was pretty much in the manga, but much shorter.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:It would make sense to cut out the Otherworld Tournament seeing it was a filler saga and Kai is trying to be more faithful to the manga. They did cut out the Garlic Jr saga, so cutting it out would make sense. I think the battle with Buu and the Kai's will likely stay given that it was pretty much in the manga, but much shorter.
How about, as they said, a quick recap of it, like 30 seconds long, inserted in the opening scene with Gohan riding Kinton (I'm sorry, but I CAN'T write the N-word and not laugh). They kept a few scenes in Kai after all. It would be nice to know that it happened.
After all, who tells us that it didn't happen in the manga?
It would be nice if they give us the ending from the Kanzenban. I view as canon since it's the new ending that AT made for the manga and I would like to see it animated even if it was nothing special.
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Skip to 8:50 , the moment Kid Buu's foot hits the ground.
"awesome" is highly debatable.
I think we'll see a slimmed down kai fight with boo, the otherworld part will be removed, and I think the Vegetto filler will either be slimmed or removed. If they could slim down the time they're inside boo that'd be great!
Hearts wrote:I really hope they cut down while they are inside Buu, hated that part
That was pretty annoying! And yeah the other world tournament needs to go! I don't think they'll let Pikkon go though. And then since they did show some of the tournament on the previous episode of Kai.. Sigh...
Well I for one hope they leave Goku vs Majin Vegeta and Goku vs Kid Buu untouched. Both were great battles that didn't last that long. Gotenks vs Super Buu definitely needs cutting down. The battles with Pui Pui and Yakon need cutting down too. As does the Tournament and the Saiyaman saga. Apart from that I'm happy with it.
90sDBZ wrote:Well I for one hope they leave Goku vs Majin Vegeta and Goku vs Kid Buu untouched. Both were great battles that didn't last that long. Gotenks vs Super Buu definitely needs cutting down. The battles with Pui Pui and Yakon need cutting down too. As does the Tournament and the Saiyaman saga. Apart from that I'm happy with it.
So, apart from 96% of the Buu saga, you're happy with it? Coo. Coo.
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HybridSaiyan wrote:Super better nail the fusion right. I don't want to see some gay twirling shit like the Zamasu fusion when they should just smack dicks together and merge.
I hope they don't cut out stuff from the Gohan vs Super Boo fight. Let Gohan have his last moment in the spotlight before the terrible shafting occurs.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
dbzfan7 wrote:I hope they don't cut out stuff from the Gohan vs Super Boo fight. Let Gohan have his last moment in the spotlight before the terrible shafting occurs.
. Seeing as Toei hate everyone not named Goku...I can see Gohan vs Super Boo being short.
dbzfan7 wrote:I hope they don't cut out stuff from the Gohan vs Super Boo fight. Let Gohan have his last moment in the spotlight before the terrible shafting occurs.
. Seeing as Toei hate everyone not named Goku...I can see Gohan vs Super Boo being short.
The manga one is really short...I like how the anime made it longer.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
dbzfan7 wrote:I hope they don't cut out stuff from the Gohan vs Super Boo fight. Let Gohan have his last moment in the spotlight before the terrible shafting occurs.
. Seeing as Toei hate everyone not named Goku...I can see Gohan vs Super Boo being short.
The manga one is really short...I like how the anime made it longer.
IMO Anime Boo arc(Besides some contradictions) was better than manga Boo Arc. Gotenks Boo toying with Gohan emotions by mocking that fact he failed was PERFECT. I can honestly see Toei cutting some Ultimate Gohan out and leaving some of the Goku filler in.
They will most likely keep in some of the filler, much like they did with the other Sagas, however, what will be left in will be stuff that actually helped move the story rather than just stalling it.
Goku it was interesting to see Goku fight someone who was as strong, if not stronger than he was.
Um....not to sound rude but did you forget the past 6 arcs? From Tenshinhan arc to Cell Arc.
Agreed, Goku does usually fight someone stronger than himself, but Tenshinhan and Goku were about equal.
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. Seeing as Toei hate everyone not named Goku...I can see Gohan vs Super Boo being short.:origin()/pre04/7639/th/pre/f/2015/175/5/c/goku_ssj_2____dios__by_naruto999_by_roker-d8ynm2x.jpg)
