The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kakashi]

Nappa was close to Goku

But according to you, Chilled was nowhere near Bardock, yet he wasn't one-shot material. So why does Nappa have to be near Goku?

Oh god so I take it back. Goku said beating Nappa might take forever

[TheGmGoken]

Nappa was close to Goku

But according to you, Chilled was nowhere near Bardock, yet he wasn't one-shot material. So why does Nappa have to be near Goku?

Oh god so I take it back. Goku said beating Nappa might take forever

Which could easily mean he's durable or a decent fighter when calm. Seriouly people focus to much or numbers.

[Kid Buu]

Vegeta (Kuririn Zenkai) if he actually went SSJ Vs. Freeza

[TheGmGoken]

I'll say Vegeta was about 2 million 2.5 million. That would put Vegeta around 100,000,000 - 125,000,000. So Vegeta vs Freeza would be a GREAT fight. I mean most likely be better than Freeza vs Goku. However Vegeta would either win because Freeza wasted to much energy or win after he use all his energy in one big blast.

[Kaboom]

This is a "versus" that comes up a lot, and like GmGoken said, I think it'd be a very close clash of powers, with Vegeta being either dead-even or just a sliver weaker than Freeza. Vegeta's odds of winning are already pretty damn good, but if he wants to make it easy, then all he has to do is stay on the defensive and let Freeza get tired out from using 100%. Then Vegeta's got the fight in the bag.

[Kakashi]

Nappa was close to Goku

No he wasn't. 4,000 is only half of about 8,000(Seeing as most BP are ROUNDED).

Your word isn't official.

4,000 was the level he displayed vs the Z fighters. He powered up vs Goku. Goku said beating Nappa would take for ever.

Manga >> you

SSjin Vegeta and Frieza are equals IMO so SSjin Vegeta wins

[rereboy]

Nappa was close to Goku

No he wasn't. 4,000 is only half of about 8,000(Seeing as most BP are ROUNDED).

Your word isn't official.

4,000 was the level he displayed vs the Z fighters. He powered up vs Goku. Goku said beating Nappa would take for ever.

Manga >> you

SSjin Vegeta and Freeza are equals IMO so SSjin Vegeta wins

All the statements and admiration shown by the Saiyans regarding the ability of the Earthlings to change their BP reading at will, plus Vegeta's statements on Namek regarding that ability that he had learned on Earth, tells us that the saiyans can't change their BP reading.

[Kamiccolo9]

Nappa was close to Goku

No he wasn't. 4,000 is only half of about 8,000(Seeing as most BP are ROUNDED).

Your word isn't official.

4,000 was the level he displayed vs the Z fighters. He powered up vs Goku. Goku said beating Nappa would take for ever.

Manga >> you

SSjin Vegeta and Freeza are equals IMO so SSjin Vegeta wins

The manga never gives us a battle power for Nappa.

[TheGmGoken]

Nappa was close to Goku

No he wasn't. 4,000 is only half of about 8,000(Seeing as most BP are ROUNDED).

Your word isn't official.

4,000 was the level he displayed vs the Z fighters. He powered up vs Goku. Goku said beating Nappa would take for ever.

Manga >> you

SSjin Vegeta and Freeza are equals IMO so SSjin Vegeta wins

Manga > me? Of course. But please tell me where did it say that Nappa was in the 7,000(s)? I hate power debates so I'm not going to waste my time debating on it. But please please tell me when it say Nappa was in the 7k(s). You mean that line where it say "This going to take forever". Do we know that Goku was acutally trying? I mean of course he was 8k and all but let's be fair. He made Nappa his bitch. He didn't even charge a kamehameha and ruined Nappa's strongest attack.

So please oh dear Kami please. Tell me where it states Nappa is around 7k? I want exact wording.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'll agree with Kakashi about 4.000 not being a fitting number with Nappa, and something close to 8.000 being a better choice. I don't believe that a x2 difference can make a battle even like Goku's & Nappa's battles were after Nappa powered-up, because they had an even fight (they fought evenly, their ki blasts clashed evenly, both Goku & Vegeta believed that it would be a long battle, and Goku needed Kaio-ken to catch him in speed), even though Goku was stronger. So, I believe their power difference wasn't very big, especially since x2 gaps are very big gaps (see SS2 Gohan vs Perfect Cell).

However, mine & his opinions aren't facts. For others, 4.000 may make sense.

[Kakashi]

Nappa was close to Goku as Goku said beating Nappa would take forever. Nappa can't 2x weaker than Goku, that's a fact

[TheGmGoken]

Nappa was close to Goku as Goku said beating Nappa would take forever. Nappa can't 2x weaker than Goku, that's a fact

Ok believe in what you believe in. 4000 doesn't work for you but it works for me. Read my signature. That's the answer.

[Kakashi]

Nappa was close to Goku as Goku said beating Nappa would take forever. Nappa can't 2x weaker than Goku, that's a fact

Ok believe in what you believe in. 4000 doesn't work for you but it works for me. Read my signature. That's the answer.

How does it work for you? Goku says beating Nappa would be difficult

[TheGmGoken]

Nappa was close to Goku as Goku said beating Nappa would take forever. Nappa can't 2x weaker than Goku, that's a fact

Ok believe in what you believe in. 4000 doesn't work for you but it works for me. Read my signature. That's the answer.

How does it work for you? Goku says beating Nappa would be difficult

However, mine & his opinions aren't facts. For others, 4.000 may make sense.

It just does. Simple as that. No need to debate these pointless numbers. They're numbers for Kami's sake. But if I must explain. Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin offense. That's all.

Your numbers aren't fact. My numbers aren't fact. I go by what Daizenshuu gave us as I don't have an issue with it and quite frankly DONT GIVE A FUCK. Debating power levels is just a cluster fuck of people saying "IMO he's this"..."NO! IMO He's THIS!"

As someone on this website summed up what these number debates really are.

Huh...well to be honest they kinda have been "I'm right your wrong"

[Kamiccolo9]

Buff Buu vs SSJ3 Gotenks. Let's assume that Gotenks is not an idiot, and is actually taking this seriously.

[goku the krump dancer]

Gotenks might be able to pull off a victory if he could keep his distance.

[TheGmGoken]

Buff Buu vs SSJ3 Gotenks. Let's assume that Gotenks is not an idiot, and is actually taking this seriously.

Great match up. I think Buff Boo insainty might cost him. Gotenks weird ass attacks might give him the edge. With Buff just trying to attack randomly. I honestly can't answer this

[Kakashi]

Buff Boo > Evil Boo, SSjin 3 Gotenks >= Evil Boo

Buff Boo wins. Ultimate Gohan is stronger though

[ZombieVito]

Buff Boo > Evil Boo, SSjin 3 Gotenks >= Evil Boo

Buff Boo wins. Ultimate Gohan is stronger though

What?

[RandomGuy96]

Evil Boo is Super Buu's real, official name.

Anyway, assuming Buff Buu is as dumb as Pure Buu, Gotenks should win. The power difference between Buff Buu and Super Buu is negligible, and Gotenks had a good lead on Super Buu.