Bojack's power compared to other characters
Bojack's power compared to other characters
I was wondering where everyone put Bojacks power at full power? Some say he's weaker than Perfect Cell, some say equal and some say above, I have him slightly below full power Perfect Cell.
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Re: Bojacks power
They're probably around the same level...but I'd say Cell is stronger.
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Re: Bojacks power
I have him stronger than PC.
Bojack: 3,600,000,000
Cell: 5,000,000,000
Super Bojack: 5,400,000,000
Bojack: 3,600,000,000
Cell: 5,000,000,000
Super Bojack: 5,400,000,000
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Re: Bojacks power
Not all that strong. His full power form couldn't one-shot SS Gohan or anything and got very intimidated when SS2 Gohan took out his gang. He even kept his gang with him when fighting SS Gohan. I just think he's powerful enough to beat up SS Gohan and that's it.
Bojack- 2,000,000,000
--Super Bojack- 3,000,000,000
For comparison:
SS Gohan- 2,500,000,000
--SS2 Gohan (at Cell Games)- 7,500,000,000
--SS2 Gohan (at Bojack)- 5,000,000,000
Perfect Cell-
--vs Goku- 2,250,000,000
--Full Strength- 4,500,000,000
--Super Perfect- 7,200,000,000
Bojack- 2,000,000,000
--Super Bojack- 3,000,000,000
For comparison:
SS Gohan- 2,500,000,000
--SS2 Gohan (at Cell Games)- 7,500,000,000
--SS2 Gohan (at Bojack)- 5,000,000,000
Perfect Cell-
--vs Goku- 2,250,000,000
--Full Strength- 4,500,000,000
--Super Perfect- 7,200,000,000
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: Bojacks power
I agree with Random. I think Cell at full-power is much stronger than Bojack.
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Re: Bojacks power
Why would Gohan lose 2 billion BP in such a short time?
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Cell has the more better techniques and generation factor which would lead him to victory.
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Stronger than Broly 
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Re: Bojacks power
IMO, in base, he is as strong as Full Power Perfect Cell. In full power, he is stronger than M8 LSS Broli, but weaker than Super Perfect Cell.
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Re: Bojacks power
Because he wasn't anger boosted. He's slightly weaker than Buu Arc Gohan at the time in base. However, according to the Daiz, CG Gohan was only stronger than Buu Arc Gohan as a SS2 because Buu Arc Gohan couldn't draw power from his rage.Haji wrote:Why would Gohan lose 2 billion BP in such a short time?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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His base state is around the Cell who fought SSjin Gohan. His full power is in par with FP PC. M8 LSSjin Broly is no match for both Bojack or CellDBZGTKOSDH wrote:In base, he is as strong as Full Power Perfect Cell. In full power, he is stronger than M8 LSS Broli, but weaker than Super Perfect Cell.
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The Daizenshuu also says he doesn't have the same power he did vs Cell because he never trainedRandomGuy96 wrote:Because he wasn't anger boosted. He's slightly weaker than Buu Arc Gohan at the time in base. However, according to the Daiz, CG Gohan was only stronger than Buu Arc Gohan as a SS2 because Buu Arc Gohan couldn't draw power from his rage.Haji wrote:Why would Gohan lose 2 billion BP in such a short time?
M9 Gohan and CG Gohan are the same
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Re: Bojack's power compared to other characters
I never thought that the rage boost was in the billions i just thought it was like full power, not holding anything back, no care in the world type of mode. Or at least making SSJ2 about a 120x instead of just a 100x.
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I like the idea of Bojack being Cell's parallel. So, in his normal condition I would put him on Perfect Cell's level against Goku and his final form around Perfect Cell at full power.
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Re: Bojack's power compared to other characters
Bojack at full power is definitely stronger than Perfect Cell (power up vs. Goku) when I saw Bojack evading Super Saiyan Full Power Gohan's attacks.
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Despite what Broly's creator might say, I think that logic dictates this to be true. Could Broly as he appears in Movie 8 have defeated Super Saiyan 2 Gohan? I'd say no.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Stronger than Broly
Bojack is at least comparable to Cell's maximum power, as he is able to fight with Gohan at a level that we know only Super Perfect Cell has thus far in the main story been able to provide any form of resistance against.
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Re: Bojack's power compared to other characters
But Perfect Cell wasn't fighting with all his strength against Goku, and in fact, he did what he wanted with FP Gohan despite him being stronger than Goku while still not using his maximum strength.SSJ4_Zankuto wrote:Bojack at full power is definitely stronger than Perfect Cell (power up vs. Goku) when I saw Bojack evading Super Saiyan Full Power Gohan's attacks.
I would put Bojack, in terms of pure strength, below Perfect Cell/100% Freezer. In terms of being a better fighter, I think PC has more techniques and more abilities than Bojack in every single sense, but on the other hand, I don't know if the difference between him and PC/100% Freezer in brute force would be big enough for 100% Freezer to be able to kill him or injure him enough before the power drain of using his 100% state would eventually put him at a disadvantage.
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Re: Bojack's power compared to other characters
The fuck?I would put Bojack, in terms of pure strength, below Perfect Cell/100% Freezer. In terms of being a better fighter, I think PC has more techniques and more abilities than Bojack in every single sense, but on the other hand, I don't know if the difference between him and PC/100% Freezer in brute force would be big enough for 100% Freezer to be able to kill him or injure him enough before the power drain of using his 100% state would eventually put him at a disadvantage.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: Bojack's power compared to other characters
He has this theory that 100% Freeza is incredibly powerful. He has outlined it in a couple of other threads that aren't too hard to find if you're interested - although they have all descended into less-than-savory affairs.RandomGuy96 wrote:The fuck?I would put Bojack, in terms of pure strength, below Perfect Cell/100% Freezer. In terms of being a better fighter, I think PC has more techniques and more abilities than Bojack in every single sense, but on the other hand, I don't know if the difference between him and PC/100% Freezer in brute force would be big enough for 100% Freezer to be able to kill him or injure him enough before the power drain of using his 100% state would eventually put him at a disadvantage.
Essentially it's best not to ask him to explain it in this thread as to not risk derailing it, which I'm fairly certain it would.
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Re: Bojack's power compared to other characters
100% Freeza who "wasn't even a challenge" to a brand new SSJ Goku?
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