Pure Boo and Evil Boo (all absorptions) have red eyes. Fat/Mr. Boo has white eyeballs with very tiny irises.alakazam^ wrote:Pure Evil has white eyes just like the manga and Oob gets white eyes when enraged. What about the other forms?
"Any persons"? Really?TheGmGoken wrote:Persons*. More than one gave a GREAT reason.hleV wrote:It was directed to any person who tries to justify Pure Evil Boo's different skin color. I haven't even read your post.
There's no implication whatsoever that Pure Evil Boo's skin color is any different, so at best you could say that "even though all Boo forms that appeared in full color pages had the same color, and Pure Evil Boo didn't seem to be any different in limited color palette, they can color him however they want because Toriyama never colored him using the full color palette". But do you honestly believe that to be a completely fine thing to do, and that it doesn't derive from what Toriyama originally intended?rereboy wrote:Jeez, how dares anyone to have a different opinion than yours, eh?hleV wrote:It was directed to any person who tries to justify Pure Evil Boo's different skin color. I haven't even read your post.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Sure. But the only official author color for that version of Buu is on a limited color scheme that probably couldn't even have been made with any kind of subtle color differences because of the limited colors. In fact, Fat Buu appears in full color in other pieces by Toriyama and his pink is very significantly different and lighter than the pink used for all Buus in that picture.hleV wrote: There's no implication whatsoever that Pure Evil Boo's skin color is any different, so at best you could say that "even though all Boo forms that appeared in full color pages had the same color, and Pure Evil Boo didn't seem to be any different in limited color palette, they can color him however they want because Toriyama never colored him using the full color palette". But do you honestly believe that to be a completely fine thing to do, and that it doesn't derive from what Toriyama originally intended?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Doesn't mean they have to go and color Pure Evil Boo differently, because Toriyama never suggested that he should be of different color.rereboy wrote:the only official author color for that version of Buu is on a limited color scheme that probably couldn't even have been made with any kind of subtle color differences because of the limited colors.
What's your point? I'm not claiming that if something is of the same color in the limited color palette, the same applies to full color palette. I'm saying that there doesn't appear to be any effort made by Toriyama to distinct Pure Evil Boo's color from the rest of Boo forms. There's no reason whatsoever to think that his color would be different.rereboy wrote:Fat Buu appears in full color in other pieces by Toriyama and his pink is very significantly different and lighter than the pink used for all Buus in that picture.
That's their decision, not Toriyama's.rereboy wrote:Meanwhile, the anime, the only other place where that Buu appears in color, chose to make him gray to make the fact, that his theme is to be the opposite of Good Buu, even more apparent.
It's only wrong if they seek accuracy, because, again, there's no reason to think that Pure Evil Boo's color was supposed to be different.rereboy wrote:And what about this full color manga? What was their choice? They made him pink, like he probably was meant to be, but they thought that the idea of making him look the opposite of good Buu even in his color was a good idea, so they gave him a even lighter pink, a more sickly pink.
What is wrong with that? Seems like the perfect decision to me. Complaining about that seems rather pointless. And telling people to don't try to justify it, when it actually seems like the perfect decision, seems worse than pointless.
There's very little reason to say that he MUST be EXACTLY the same shade of pink either...hleV wrote: It's only wrong if they seek accuracy, because, again, there's no reason to think that Pure Evil Boo's color was supposed to be different.
. A single limited colors image from a author that doesn't even typically go out of his way to keep all of his color schemes consistent is probably the flimsiest evidence I could think up to support a "true color" argument. What about the fact that the other forms of Boo have the very same color (referring to full color palette)? Surely the only conclusion is that Pure Evil Boo shouldn't be any different, unless suggested otherwise.rereboy wrote: There's very little reason to say that he MUST be EXACTLY the same shade of pink either...
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
No other Buu was designed to be, physically, the opposite of another Buu.hleV wrote:What about the fact that the other forms of Boo have the very same color (referring to full color palette)? Surely the only conclusion is that Pure Evil Boo shouldn't be any different, unless suggested otherwise.rereboy wrote: There's very little reason to say that he MUST be EXACTLY the same shade of pink either...
Do we know that Toriyama colored the images in the Daizenshuu? Because it comes from a Daizenshuu, doesn't it?rereboy wrote:the author never colored him in full color and that the only time he colored him was in a limited color image
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
I'm assuming that it was him, but I don't know where that is stated.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Do we know that Toriyama colored the images in the Daizenshuu? Because it comes from a Daizenshuu, doesn't it?rereboy wrote:the author never colored him in full color and that the only time he colored him was in a limited color image
I suggest you re-read, because I was referring to the full color palette. Like I said, "I'm not claiming that if something is of the same color in the limited color palette, the same applies to full color palette."DBZGTKOSDH wrote:By that logic, everything that is red in this picture must be yellow.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee4 ... 4721f6.jpg
You are giving way too much credit to the limited colors.
Physically the opposite of another Boo? What does that even mean? The evil side of Boo simply grabbed some of Fat Boo's body and most of his power.rereboy wrote:No other Buu was designed to be, physically, the opposite of another Buu.
But when did we see Pure Evil Boo fully colored besides the anime & the colored manga?hleV wrote:I suggest you re-read, because I was referring to the full color palette. Like I said, "I'm not claiming that if something is of the same color in the limited color palette, the same applies to full color palette."
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
One is fat, one is skinny, one is goofy and fun looking, the other is terrifying, ... Do I need to go on? You just have to look at them, even without knowing anything about them and you would notice that they are pretty much opposites in design. Color is part of the design. Therefore being a lighter pink a more sickly tone, is coherent with his design theme.hleV wrote: Physically the opposite of another Boo? What does that even mean? The evil side of Boo simply grabbed some of Fat Boo's body and most of his power.
Even if we had, if its not by the author's hand, it wouldn't have any significance.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But when did we see Pure Evil Boo fully colored besides the anime & the colored manga?hleV wrote:I suggest you re-read, because I was referring to the full color palette. Like I said, "I'm not claiming that if something is of the same color in the limited color palette, the same applies to full color palette."
Again, I suggest you re-read.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But when did we see Pure Evil Boo fully colored besides the anime & the colored manga?hleV wrote:I suggest you re-read, because I was referring to the full color palette. Like I said, "I'm not claiming that if something is of the same color in the limited color palette, the same applies to full color palette."
Then Evil Boo and Pure Boo are also the opposites of Fat Boo. Yet they're of the same color.rereboy wrote:One is fat, one is skinny, one is goofy and fun looking, the other is terrifying, ... Do I need to go on? You just have to look at them, even without knowing anything about them and you would notice that they are pretty much opposites in design. Color is part of the design. Therefore being a lighter pink a more sickly tone, is coherent with his design theme.
OK, I had missed one line, but I got your point now.hleV wrote:Again, I suggest you re-read.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But when did we see Pure Evil Boo fully colored besides the anime & the colored manga?hleV wrote:I suggest you re-read, because I was referring to the full color palette. Like I said, "I'm not claiming that if something is of the same color in the limited color palette, the same applies to full color palette."
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Why are they opposites? They just aren't fat. Evil Buu is supposed to be a sort of fusion between Good Buu and Gray Buu, with Gray Buu being the most dominant force. And that's what he looks like. He isn't either skinny or fat, he has a normal or even a muscular body instead, which seems to be the balance between fat and skinny. Also, his clothes change and aren't the same clothes shared by Good Buu and Gray Buu, marking his difference from both of them. And Pure Boo just looks like a chibi version of Super Buu. So again I ask, why are they opposites of Fat Buu?hleV wrote: Then Evil Boo and Pure Boo are also the opposites of Fat Boo. Yet they're of the same color.
