After burning out my brain a bit thinking on it, it'd make sense if Grade 3 was as slow as regular Super Saiyan.
If you think of Super Saiyan 1 as the starting point, then imagine once you ascend into the 'Grades' you gain a certain amount of both extra speed and power. At Grade 2 you have a little of both which is applied equally, but as you pump up towards Grade 2, you're trading away your speed for extra power. By the time you hit your maximum power, you've lost any and all extra speed you had, and you're now as slow as just regular Super Saiyan.
Grade 2:
+50 Power
+50 Speed
Grade 3:
+100 Power
+0 Speed
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Tien Vs. Tambourine or Cymbal.
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Tien would stomp Tambourine just as easily as Goku did. Cymbal is much weaker than Tambourine, so a mere slap would be enough to take him down.
"First I whip it out! Then I thrust it! With great force! Every angle...! It penetrates! Until...! With great strength...! I... ram it in! In the end... We are all satisfied... And you are set free...!" ~Dante~
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What about Kuririn t full power Vs. Tambourine then?
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Since Tambourine destroyed Krillin after the Budokai, I'd have to say him.
Now if this was 23rd Budokai Krillin....
Now if this was 23rd Budokai Krillin....
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Great Ape Raditz vs Bardock
LSSJ Broly vs SSG Goku. Arm Wrestling
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Ordinarily, I'd say that Bardock would be strong enough to pull a win, but Bardock is very aware of the tail weakness. If Goku could last that long against Vegeta, I see no reason why Bardock couldn't last long enough to cut off Raditz's tail.TheGmGoken wrote:Great Ape Raditz vs Bardock
LSSJ Broly vs SSG Goku. Arm Wrestling
What the hell do you think is going to happen!?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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That's what I meant, whoops.Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Since Tambourine destroyed Krillin after the Budokai, I'd have to say him.
Now if this was 23rd Budokai Krillin....
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That Krillin should be pretty close to BOZ Krillin, so he eviscerates Tambourine.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Broly's arm melting?RandomGuy96 wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:Great Ape Raditz vs Bardock
LSSJ Broly vs SSG Goku. Arm Wrestling
What the hell do you think is going to happen!?
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If Goku is generous.TheGmGoken wrote:Broly's arm melting?RandomGuy96 wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:Great Ape Raditz vs Bardock
LSSJ Broly vs SSG Goku. Arm Wrestling
What the hell do you think is going to happen!?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Ssj Goku~Buu Saga vs. Bojack(Full power)
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I think Goku stomps pretty hard, because I never saw Bojack as particularly strong, going purely by what he did in the movie- i.e. beat up SS Gohan while backed up by his gang. He didn't completely annihilate Gohan or one-shot him, and him freaking out after Gohan dispatches his henchmen suggests that they're pretty relevant to him. I at least can't see him being over twice as strong as them.Strife1 wrote:Ssj Goku~Buu Saga vs. Bojack(Full power)
Bojack- 2,000,000,000
--Super Bojack- 3,000,000,000
Goku- 80,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 4,000,000,000
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Fuck it.
Kurt Angle vs Mr Satan
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Cartoon or comic Satan?TheGmGoken wrote:Fuck it.
Kurt Angle vs Mr Satan
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Your choice.RandomGuy96 wrote:Cartoon or comic Satan?TheGmGoken wrote:Fuck it.
Kurt Angle vs Mr Satan
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Well, the animated Satan is more like a mid-tier comic book street leveler, so he should be able to take any real life human with ease.TheGmGoken wrote:Your choice.RandomGuy96 wrote:Cartoon or comic Satan?TheGmGoken wrote:Fuck it.
Kurt Angle vs Mr Satan
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Wrestling is fake, Mr. Satan stomps. **Waits the hating**TheGmGoken wrote:Kurt Angle vs Mr Satan
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Meh. Scprited not fake. But doesn't matter to be honest. Wrestler is much more fake than DBZ haha. Undertaker had fucking lighting coming out of his handsDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Wrestling is fake, Mr. Satan stomps. **Waits the hating**TheGmGoken wrote:Kurt Angle vs Mr Satan
. Though to be fair Kurt Angle was wrestling(REAL wrestling not Sports Entertainment) before he was a "Wrestler" and even won a Gold medal with a BROKEN NECK.-
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No matter what knowledge they have in martial arts and no matter how strong they are, they don't have the same experience as Mr. Satan has, who is an actual martial arts champion.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.