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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:56 am

I'd probably give DBM a... well, let's be generous and not count most of the specials, so a 6 out of 10, and I freely admit that five of those points come from the art, and the last point comes from Zen Buu.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fionordequester » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:10 am

I dunno, I'd give it a 7/10. The slow pace, the way it's constantly changing perspectives to characters we don't really care all that much for, the sometimes stilted translation (it honestly reminds me a bit of how FFVII got at times, even though I honestly thought that it wasn't GENERALLY a bad localization), and the fluctuating art quality stink, but when it hits a home run, it definitely hits a home run. Plus, I like the humor, as it's generally funny, has lots of clever callbacks to the manga, and feels a lot like Dragon Ball in spirit.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Tzigi » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:52 am

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rereboy wrote:Its not the artists of the specials that need that much time. Its the artists of the main story.
But we no longer have an artist of the main story that needs breaks, because we have a different artist per-chapter now. The specials aren't needed at this point.
Wrong. At the moment Asura is the artist of the main story.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:32 am

Oh, I didn't know that. OK then.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:34 am

I wonder if they will ever get Rogeru (think I spelled that right) who currently draws Dragonball EX for Sebliet. His stuff is up there with Asura, Gogeta Jr., and the AF authors Toyble and Young Jijii.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:42 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I wonder if they will ever get Rogeru (think I spelled that right) who currently draws Dragonball EX for Sebliet. His stuff is up there with Asura, Gogeta Jr., and the AF authors Toyble and Young Jijii.
I doubt he would be available since, you know... he draws DBEX. :roll:
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:46 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:I wonder if they will ever get Rogeru (think I spelled that right) who currently draws Dragonball EX for Sebliet. His stuff is up there with Asura, Gogeta Jr., and the AF authors Toyble and Young Jijii.
I doubt he would be available since, you know... he draws DBEX. :roll:
Well yeah I figured that much. We dont know how long EX is gonna go (or at least I dont) so Multiverse may still be running long after EX finishes. If that ever happens to be the case, it would be cool to see Rogeru come in and draw for Multiverse as well.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:32 am

Personally, i give it 6.5 out of 10, it`s kinda like GT, great scenario, with plenty plotholes, wasted potential in many specials (With few exceptions, it just show massacre of Z-Warriors, and Bardock/Raichi Specials dragged so much, even more than Garlic Jr. Saga), and, like in GT, random changes in power levels for scenario sakes.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:15 am

coola wrote:Personally, i give it 6.5 out of 10, it`s kinda like GT, great scenario, with plenty plotholes, wasted potential in many specials (With few exceptions, it just show massacre of Z-Warriors, and Bardock/Raichi Specials dragged so much, even more than Garlic Jr. Saga), and, like in GT, random changes in power levels for scenario sakes.
A shame Salagir didnt include SSJ4.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:20 pm

I'll give it a 6/10 as well. Decent plot. Just badly made IMO. Some of the shit they come up though while cool just doesn't feel Dragonball and the dialog doesn't seem Dragonball most of the time. Especially Bardock's................

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Post by Malik_DBNA » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:51 pm

For me, I rank it about a 7/10. At first, the dialogue was VERY Dragon Ball. The scenario just seemed like something very post-Z. It felt authentic.

I do agree with some that it seems to drag on. The tournament sagas in the original manga seemed to flow a little better. I think the main problem in this tournament was the inclusion of too many participants. Before a bunch of the fighters dropped out, there would have been likely dozens more matches. Bardock's visions have shown what the crisi facing everyone are, but the pacing of the comic is dividing the attention. It seems like there are many storylines happening at once, and the main plot has been lost in the shuffle. Its the Spiderman 3 syndrome. Too many minor storylines affecting the main one. And while I do agree that some of the special chapters really didn't need to happen, I feel that they are part of the overall storyline, and should not really be excluded. Now, that isn't to say I disagree with people's assertion that they shouldn't be as frequent. it seems like the comic has been paced to have two special chapters for every one main chapter, & I think that should be reversed, but maybe thats just me.

Besides these minor issues, I find DBM to be quite enjoyable. The different what if scenarios, powers, and matches are quite entertaining. As long as decent art accompanies the story, there really isn't too much wrong with it besides the aforementioned issues of myself and others

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:30 pm

Malik_DBNA wrote:For me, I rank it about a 7/10. At first, the dialogue was VERY Dragon Ball. The scenario just seemed like something very post-Z. It felt authentic.

I do agree with some that it seems to drag on. The tournament sagas in the original manga seemed to flow a little better. I think the main problem in this tournament was the inclusion of too many participants. Before a bunch of the fighters dropped out, there would have been likely dozens more matches. Bardock's visions have shown what the crisi facing everyone are, but the pacing of the comic is dividing the attention. It seems like there are many storylines happening at once, and the main plot has been lost in the shuffle. Its the Spiderman 3 syndrome. Too many minor storylines affecting the main one. And while I do agree that some of the special chapters really didn't need to happen, I feel that they are part of the overall storyline, and should not really be excluded. Now, that isn't to say I disagree with people's assertion that they shouldn't be as frequent. it seems like the comic has been paced to have two special chapters for every one main chapter, & I think that should be reversed, but maybe thats just me.

Besides these minor issues, I find DBM to be quite enjoyable. The different what if scenarios, powers, and matches are quite entertaining. As long as decent art accompanies the story, there really isn't too much wrong with it besides the aforementioned issues of myself and others
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:10 pm

Poor Cold, let him dream, he will find out soon enough, when Goku massacre Freeza with just one punch. Raichi will have difficult time beating Vegeta. That 1st panel kinda remind me when Jeice was angry at Recoom for raise dust.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:10 pm

I absolutely love the dialogue on this page!

And since we're throwing number ratings around, DBM for me gets a 7/10 from me. Sometimes it jitters on the edge of eight but something would happen in the story that would knock it down a peg for me. I like the story, the art can be very impressive at times, and it's the one of the very few fan mangas I keep up with.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:13 pm

Predictable.

So, how strong is Raichi supposed to be again?
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Marco Polo » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:45 pm

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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:46 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Predictable.

So, how strong is Raichi supposed to be again?
Stronger than Freeza

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:48 pm

Darn, I was still kinda rooting for Bardock. But it'll be interesting to see who ends up almost killing Cold.

...This actually makes me wonder if Cold will actually be so injured as to need technological enhancements like his sons did in other universes. He appeared to have all of his parts in Bardock's prediction, but you never know.

Great art though, and I believe we've had it confirmed that this artist is doing the next main chapter too? If so, woohoo!
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:21 pm

I've seen enough. I'm calling it. Asura > Gogeta Jr. Which is no slight against Gogeta Jr., mind you. Just that there are times that Asura's work actually looks better than even some official material. The ideal scenario would be Gogeta Jr. returns to the main story on the condition that he and Asura split the drawing duties so neither of them gets burned out.

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