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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Tzigi » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:26 pm

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Do you realy need all that profanity in your post? I find it offensive.
How is it offensive? Because I swear? They have no feeling towards them. I LOVE TO SWEAR it's not like I go around just randomly saying "BITCH!" "DAMN LOOK AT THAT BIG ASS TREE". I just say them a lot of times.
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So what's the problem? A different Broly can have different powers (just like there are 3 different Vegetas from 3 different universes and nobody has any problems with the fact that they have different powerlevels). You just contradicted your own point.
No I didn't. No one has the issue of Vegeta having different battle powers because the 3 universes went through different shit. The U17 one we all know what he been through. Then we have Prince Vegeta who clearly had different experiences. Then Caveman Vegeta. Broly however got a CHEAP plot excuse. Despite him being different. Had the reason been better explained and handle then I would't have such an issue. My main issue(Unlike everyone else) is that it was poorly made. Him saying "BROLY IS COOL" is just a sub issue(As in my friend roleplay fanfics we did it too at times) and don't like your or Rereboy's reason. I honesty think he did so fans would be into the series. Which is smart. Y'all reason is so it benefit Vegetto. Which I highly disagree to be fair.
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Once again [source] please. Only you can't post one since there's nothing like this in DBM. We see u4!Buu's thoughts 2 times (page 192 - he seems intrigued; page 218 - he's looking forward to the possibility of finishing the Broly-problem) during the Vegetto-Buu fight and he isn't worried at either part.
I posted the source already. I said ZEN BOO. There is only ONE Zen Boo.
1. There's no Zen Buu in DBM. There's Hyper Buu (check the Universes listing for the proper naming).
2. Why do you feel the need to write "There is only ONE Zen Boo."? I've never claimed there were more. I wrote that this character expresses himself twice during the Vegetto-Broly (not Vegetto-Buu - that was my mistake) fight.
3. Also I have linked to the precise same page that you mention. The trouble is that Buu is by no means worried there. He's intrigued and calculating. That's why I wrote that you can't provide a source for the statement "u4!Buu is worried during the fight between Vegetto and Brolly" - because you can't.
4. If you want to read more about the feelings of u4!Buu during this fight, the chapter 43 of the DBM novelization will be of use.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:49 pm

1. There's no Zen Buu in DBM. There's Hyper Buu (check the Universes listing for the proper naming).
You knew damn well who I was talking about. Besides I remember on Youtube or during the summer. You said fans said Zen Boo and it just caught on.
2. Why do you feel the need to write "There is only ONE Zen Boo."? I've never claimed there were more. I wrote that this character expresses himself twice during the Vegetto-Broly (not Vegetto-Buu - that was my mistake) fight.
Becuase I honestly mis read your post as 4Boos not u.4 Boo. My bad.
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Your opinions must be expressed with civility. Rudeness (including slanderous words) (...) will not be tolerated.
Swearing is impolite? Since when!? That's just my talking style. I can't change what I grow up on. It just harmless words. You only get offended if you allow yourself to be offended. Swearing isn't rude. For example. If I said your ideas were shit. Then that'll be honestly rude. But I didn't. All I did was swear. Is that so wrong?
No one is forcing you to read DBM. If you dislike the storytelling choices made by Salagir, you can always try reading something different.
Here..we go again :roll: . FYI I read over 30 fanmanga, fiction, and manga a day. I never said DBM was terrible. No one said it was the worst thing ever. We're saying that SOME of the plot points of stupid and cheap. Just cause we don't like certain storytellings doesn't mean we have to drop the whole manga. That's dumb quite frankly. I don't like some storytelling of Dragonball itself or even Gurren Lagann(My favorite Anime ever). Does it mean I should drop the whole story?
3. Also I have linked to the precise same page that you mention. The trouble is that Buu is by no means worried there. He's intrigued and calculating. That's why I wrote that you can't provide a source for the statement "u4!Buu is worried during the fight between Vegetto and Brolly" - because you can't.
I just did. I link to the page where he's praising Broly. Boo is(As I said originally) KINDA worried.
4. If you want to read more about the feelings of u4!Buu during this fight, the chapter 43 of the DBM novelization will be of use.
I thought the manga doesn't follow the Novel. I remember quite a few saying that.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:04 pm

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Art look ok, but, what is the point of showing murdering Vegeta? Its not like I'm some sort of moralist, it just waste of chapter space, in my opinion.
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Post by TonyTheTiger » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:05 pm

To show that Krillin doomed the universe.

I think I'm going to like this special. This is the right way to tell a butterfly effect story.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:19 pm

Exactly. And I could be proven wrong, but I'm betting this part will be over on the next page, so it's just a good way to drop us into this universe.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:22 pm

The art looks great IMO. Could have been better. Krillin pretty much fucked everybody. Now if Krillin kills Vegeta I wonder how that would affect Goku or how Goku and Krillin relations change, Could Vegeta make a last minute attack which piss Krillin off?

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Post by coola » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:30 pm

Yes, i guess you are right, it shouldn`t take too muc time, It remind me a lot of Super Famicom DBZ Super Goku Den 2, where there is an option to kill Vegeta, after that, it move toward Guldo, killing Gohan and Kuririn.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:31 pm

coola wrote:Yes, i guess you are right, it shouldn`t take too muc time, It remind me a lot of Super Famicom DBZ Super Goku Den 2, where there is an option to kill Vegeta, after that, it move toward Guldo, killing Gohan and Kuririn.
:lol: . For reals? What was Goku's reaction. Also what happens when Guldo kills Gohan and Krillin? Game over?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:48 pm

Wow. Some of those(Well...almost all) was quite boring to be honest.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:10 pm

I've always wanted to see Krillin kill Vegeta, so I'm fine with this page and the next.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:12 pm

I'm gonna miss Asura's art now...I know he isn't done...but it was soooo good...but I'm probably not gonna comment here now unless I see something really interesting or really shitty.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:21 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:I'm gonna miss Asura's art now...I know he isn't done...but it was soooo good...but I'm probably not gonna comment here now unless I see something really interesting or really shitty.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hulkty » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:37 pm

Feels weird to know that a badly wounded Saiyan Saga Krillin could have killed someone that would eventually become one of the strongest beings, a SSj4, and half of Vegito...

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:21 pm

A lot of weak characters came close to killing a character who would later become really strong. Like Tambourine with Goku. Or Yajirobe with Goku. Or Tao with Goku.

Anyway, normally I hate fil- I mean "special" chapters, but I don't really mind this one because the next two fights are going to be extremely short and boring. Ten and Eleim are horribly mismatched and likely won't even last a panel against Buu and Bra.

...then again, in a comic where Krillin can hold his own against Hirudegarn, and Future Gohan can beat Dabra, anything can happen.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:30 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:...then again, in a comic where Krillin can hold his own against Hirudegarn


And I still feel he got gypped there too, bah. BAH.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:41 pm

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RandomGuy96 wrote:...then again, in a comic where Krillin can hold his own against Hirudegarn


And I still feel he got gypped there too, bah. BAH.


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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:52 pm

Well, partially at least. :P

I'll admit that the Krillin that we know, it's pretty hard to imagine him getting that strong...but this is a completely different Krillin. A totally badass (well, badass-er, since he already is normally) Krillin that there's no telling what such a character would be made of. I wanted to see what else he'd be capable of in this tournament.

What really chafes me about it though is that Tapion is a complete non-fighter in this comic. If it had been portraying him as a pretty skilled fighter on his own, I'd be less bothered. If he had had all of Hirudegarn's power made his own, I'd be less bothered. Hell, if he pulled a Naruto and went all Hirudegarn Sage Mode, I'd be less bothered. But all he did was practically throw a Pokeball, scream "Hirudegarn, use Flamethrower!", and it was Super Effective. Bleh.

But that's all far in the past now I suppose.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:55 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Well, partially at least. :P

I'll admit that the Krillin that we know, it's pretty hard to imagine him getting that strong...but this is a completely different Krillin. A totally badass (well, badass-er, since he already is normally) Krillin that there's no telling what such a character would be made of. I wanted to see what else he'd be capable of in this tournament.

What really chafes me about it though is that Tapion is a complete non-fighter in this comic. If it had been portraying him as a pretty skilled fighter on his own, I'd be less bothered. If he had had all of Hirudegarn's power made his own, I'd be less bothered. Hell, if he pulled a Naruto and went all Hirudegarn Sage Mode, I'd be less bothered. But all he did was practically throw a Pokeball, scream "Hirudegarn, use Flamethrower!", and it was Super Effective. Bleh.

But that's all far in the past now I suppose.
I already think that Krillin is too strong as is, given what his universe apparently survived. And his performance against Hirudegarn is ridiculous either way, unless Hirudegarn is waaaaaaay weaker here than he is in the movie (which I think is the case, but I doubt he's so much weaker that Krillin could give him trouble, unless the fight with Cell will be over in a panel). If he had somehow managed to defeat a Buuhan-level character, well... no, I wouldn't like that. I'd call major bullshit. Krillin should never get that strong. That's just silly. Heck, I can already tell I'm going to be annoyed in the inevitable special where Krillin and the rest somehow manage to beat Dabra. I don't have much of a problem with them beating Android 20, Freeza, and Cooler, especially when they can just take them out before they unleash the big guns... but Dabra? Yeah no....

I'm glad Tapion won. Krillin would've been splattered instantly if he tried to go against Cell, now we have someone who actually has a chance of advancing. He beat Salza and advanced past the first round, which frankly is more than enough. Just think of Hirudegarn as the actual contestant.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:58 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote: But all he did was practically throw a Pokeball, scream "Hirudegarn, use Flamethrower!", and it was Super Effective. Bleh.
Thank you for this. I got a good laugh out of it on an otherwise "bleh" day. :lol:
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