Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Gyt Kaliba]

I just look at it all as an AU, which it is - so from my POV there's just no telling how strong these alternate versions of characters could be. But I can sorta see how it'd bother people too, but honestly I'm not so invested in character strength that it bothers me in the slightest.

And if Hirudegarn were the contestant, than I would be fine with it. It's the fact that he's not, that Tapion is and is presented as a nothing, and he still gets the win for just standing by and letting Hirudegarn do the work. That's just...gah. It's cheating, plain and simple.

[RandomGuy96]

No amount of "alternate universe" handwaves would make me accept Krillin being able to beat someone who one-shotted Ultimate Gohan. That would just be... dumb.

Also, it's really not cheating. Think of Tapion as basically Hirudegarn's transport, since Hirudegarn can't speak and can't enter himself. It's much better than having Krillin advance to the next round and get dispatched in one blow by Cell.

[Skar]

True, but what do you expect when the creator is a self admitted Broly lover?

(Another reason I love DBNA as it gives Broly a big ol' middle finger.)

Gives Broly a middle finger by replacing him with another Legendary Saiyan who was also betrayed by King Vegeta =P? I would bet that every legendary and/or mutated Saiyans in fan fiction was inspired by Broly. Maybe not the berserker LSSJ form but the idea of him being a rare breed of Saiyan.

A problem with GT is for example how can Pan stand her ground against Luud who is explicitly said to be stronger then Buu. That doesn't get explained in any (good or bad way). DBM tries to explain all of its powerlevels. Do you see the difference

Was Lord Luud really that powerful? How did all these +SSJ3 tier aliens during the Blackstar saga go undetected for so long? That's something I always hate when writers don't bother to account for where their new characters have been this entire time. In the Buu saga Gohan, Kibito, and Kaioshin were able to sense SSJ3 Goku from the sacred Kai planet, Vegeta knew about SSJ3 Goku and knew what was going on based on what he sensed from the Buus, Super Buu was able to sense Ultimate Gohan all the way from Earth. I'm pretty sure the distance between Earth and Other World is much greater than Earth and other planets within the same galaxy.

[Pantalones]

Spoiler:

...good lord. I knew the Bojack special was awful-looking, but I had completely forgotten about it being that bad. It's like my mind seriously erased most of my memories of it or something, because the image in my head of "what the Bojack special looked like" was nowhere near this bad. Wow...

[Hellspawn28]

Tapion lacks good feats. I never view that strong to begin with since he never shown anything special that put him above Freeza.

[RandomGuy96]

Tapion lacks good feats. I never view that strong to begin with since he never shown anything special that put him above Freeza.

Salagir thinks Tapion is weaker than Raditz. Hirudegarn, however, should easily stomp his way past Cell and Vegeta if he's at a level of strength anywhere near what it was in the movie.

[testing223]

Tapion lacks good feats. I never view that strong to begin with since he never shown anything special that put him above Freeza.

Salagir thinks Tapion is weaker than Raditz. Hirudegarn, however, should easily stomp his way past Cell and Vegeta if he's at a level of strength anywhere near what it was in the movie.

There've been many hints that Cell is way way stronger than he seems.

[RandomGuy96]

He's not stronger than a Buuhan level character. No freaking way. And he's quite obviously going to lose to Vegeta, if he gets that far. I predict Hirudegarn will be nerfed hard. Or that he already has been.

[coola]

I don`t know why, but i laughed, especially at 2nd panel, there is small error, at 2nd panel ,Vegeta body is at spaceship, while in last one, it is more away.

[Kamiccolo9]

What's wrong with Krillin's mouth on that bottom right panel? Weird.

[Marco Polo]

I don`t know why, but i find this pretty funny

Same here. Is it supposed to be humorous? If they were trying to be serious they failed dramatically.

[Pantalones]

Maybe Tapion gaining control over Hirudegarn has actually caused Hirudegarn to weaken over time? If the sealing process itself weakens Hirudegarn, and now he's always "semi-sealed" because he's controlled by Tapion rather than being free to rampage on his own, that could explain a drop in power from the absurdly strong monster we saw in the movie.

(Plus, this Hirudegarn could've just been weaker in the first place. I mean, we already have an indestructible Broly that constantly increases in power without any apparent limit, a Namek powerful enough to effortlessly spank all of the non-fused Saiyans--and Gotenks too--with both hands tied behind his back, a version of Bra who's the daughter of a fusion and seems to have inherited power to match, and apparently weak humanoid fighters who can actually harm Buu-level characters with technological weapons... compared to any of those, Hirudegarn being weaker is pretty tame as far as alternate-universes go.)

[RandomGuy96]

Good god, Krillin just straight up cut his head off. I wasn't expecting them to actually show the head rolling off... though the "tac tac" and the "nah, too late" do make the scene rather comedic. I actually like this page.

Same here. Is it supposed to be humorous? If they were trying to be serious they failed dramatically.

I'm 99% sure that this page is black comedy. Seriously, look at the third panel. Vegeta's head is still complaining even as it rolls around on the floor.

[rereboy]

I predict Hirudegarn will be nerfed hard. Or that he already has been.

Hirudegarn's power is all over the place.

Mystic Gohan couldn't do anything to his first form, Gotenks did better than Mystic Gohan against his first form (in fact even Vegeta seemed to do better than Mystic Gohan) but was defeated in one blow by Hirudegarn's evolved form, and SSJ3 Goku tanked several blows from his evolved form before killing him in one attack. So, whatever.

I'm 99% sure that this page is black comedy. Seriously, look at the third panel. Vegeta's head is still complaining even as it rolls around the floor.

Those are thought bubbles. And its actually likely that a decapitated person has a few moments of life after decapitation than instant death.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I dunno why, but something about the exact way Kuririn did him in seems overly brutal to me...maybe I was just expecting him to just run him through with the blade or something. Or maybe it's just cuz it's Christmas.

I do like that Goku is getting over it rather than, as some predicted, holding a grudge against Kuririn for it. This seems more in his personality, and even in the real version where he does stop Vegeta's death, he still admits that it's selfish and unreasonable on his part.

[RandomGuy96]

Those are thought bubbles. And its actually likely that a decapitated person has a few moments of life after decapitation than instant death.

I'm not saying that it's not realistic, but it seems pretty obviously humorous when paired with the bouncing around and "tac tac", especially with the way it all happens ("Krillin don't-(SLASH)...never mind").

[rereboy]

Those are thought bubbles. And its actually likely that a decapitated person has a few moments of life after decapitation than instant death.

I'm not saying that it's not realistic, but it seems pretty obviously humorous when paired with the bouncing around and "tac tac", especially with the way it all happens ("Krillin don-" (SLASH) "...never mind").

I see. I do agree with seeming humorous, depending on how we look at it. On the other hand, I don't see any other way to have him decapitated and not having that be an issue. They could have him take the blade in the heart or whatever but this does seem more final.

[RandomGuy96]

I was expecting Krillin to run him through with the blade.

[Kamiccolo9]

I was expecting Krillin to run him through with the blade.

This was a better way to show off Krillin's mad sword skillz.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I was expecting Krillin to run him through with the blade.

This was a better way to show off Krillin's mad sword skillz.

...Thinking of it that way, my Kuririn fanboy side suddenly agrees with it much more. Forget Trunks, Kuririn is clearly the true bishonen hearthrob swordsmaster.