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Okay, so: the point of divergence in this universe is Krillin killing Vegeta. So that must mean the Saiyan who destroyed Freeza's capital, and the one who Freeza apparently had to go to his final form to defeat, is Goku.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Or Gohan.
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I don't see Gohan surviving Dodoria without Vegeta being there to save him. I thought that'd be the main divergence.rereboy wrote:Or Gohan.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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About Hildegarn vs Cell, don't forget that Cell doesn't have to be stronger than Hildegarn, since Cell can kill Hildegarn by killing Tapion. Kuririn, who is much weaker than Hildegarn, almost succeeded in beating Tapion, so Cell, who is stronger, faster, and smarter, should be able to beat him.
Besides, this Hildegarn could be different from the Hildegarn we saw in M13, since the events of M13 happened differently in DBM, and Salagir changes the movie characters if he wants to (DBM Broli gets stronger over time unlike Anime Broli, and DBM Tapion is a regular musician who doesn't fight, unlike M13 Tapion who had an incredible ki & could use Bukujutsu).
Besides, this Hildegarn could be different from the Hildegarn we saw in M13, since the events of M13 happened differently in DBM, and Salagir changes the movie characters if he wants to (DBM Broli gets stronger over time unlike Anime Broli, and DBM Tapion is a regular musician who doesn't fight, unlike M13 Tapion who had an incredible ki & could use Bukujutsu).
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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This page is making me think that TFS should've kept a "Vegeta owned" count.
EDIT: Oh, and I noticed that the earlier design of Cold wasn't a fan recolor, it was his actual 'official' look, it's the picture shown in the novelization.

I liked this design much better than just "Freeza, but bigger and with slightly different colored gem-like parts".
EDIT: Oh, and I noticed that the earlier design of Cold wasn't a fan recolor, it was his actual 'official' look, it's the picture shown in the novelization.

I liked this design much better than just "Freeza, but bigger and with slightly different colored gem-like parts".
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Gohan and Krillin fooled Dodoria on their own, without any help from Vegeta.RandomGuy96 wrote:I don't see Gohan surviving Dodoria without Vegeta being there to save him. I thought that'd be the main divergence.rereboy wrote:Or Gohan.
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I read this entire page in Abridged voices and think it's absolutely hysterical. If this were supposed to be serious I'd complain that Krillin didn't just run him through and that they were being needlessly violent. But this is just gold.
As for what happens on Namek, a lot can change. Vegeta landed on Namek shortly after the heroes did and immediately started mucking around with the remaining Namekians and Freeza's men. So his presence informs everyone's actions right from the get go. Without him there everyone may not make the same choices so the various encounters that we know of may not happen under the same circumstances.
As for what happens on Namek, a lot can change. Vegeta landed on Namek shortly after the heroes did and immediately started mucking around with the remaining Namekians and Freeza's men. So his presence informs everyone's actions right from the get go. Without him there everyone may not make the same choices so the various encounters that we know of may not happen under the same circumstances.
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I guess Nail's going to be the team's beating stick until Ginyu shows up. Is Goku really capable of the planetary-scale destruction seen in the U8 flashback? Seems more like something Vegeta would do, and he's dead. Could just be Gohan going Oozaru, but that's a little far-fetched. Sure he could give the entire Ginyu Force trouble in that form, but Final Form Freeza? Unless Vegeta was brought back somehow, though that would make even less sense.
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Well, they'll still have Dodoria on them, as well as Cui and Zarbon. I don't think they're going to survive; on the other hand, does Freeza ever say anything indicating he knows any of the Gokus at the tournament?rereboy wrote:Gohan and Krillin fooled Dodoria on their own, without any help from Vegeta.RandomGuy96 wrote:I don't see Gohan surviving Dodoria without Vegeta being there to save him. I thought that'd be the main divergence.rereboy wrote:Or Gohan.
Hopefully, once we get back to the main story, three of the four upcoming "fights" will each last one page each, like Goku vs 17. Then the actually somewhat interesting stuff can happen.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Waasn't Krillin and Gohan doing a GREAT job at hiding though? I mean besides Vegeta's ki sensing. They avoided a lot of trouble.
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It`s funny, how seemingly right decision, doomed entire universe. That`s DB logic for you i guess.
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Why does Freeza's head looks like it's on Nappa's body 

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It looks like they are going to die quick unless Nail tries to save them.
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Vegeta's employers? They heard everything from his scouter? But didn't he went "IT'S OVER 9000 8000!!!!!!!!!!!!" and broke it to pieces?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
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Nappa's scouter. But they should only know what Nappa and Vegeta said about going to Namek. Not what the Earthlings saidDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Vegeta's employers? They heard everything from his scouter? But didn't he went "IT'S OVER 9000 8000!!!!!!!!!!!!" and broke it to pieces?
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Always nice to see Freeza being spelled correctly.
Cant listen to the old Frieza spelling without thinking of Trunk's joke from Abridged.
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Even if it was Nappa's, the scouter was in a different place, and Vegeta never had any "employers" before inside Freeza's army, the only comrades he seemed to have were Nappa, Raditz, and the Saibaimen.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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That's what I was thinking to. Is it possible this is a wonky translation of sorts maybe? Either way, I'm just going with the assumption, until we see more to completely prove otherwise, that Freeza and co. still don't know about the Earthlings being there just yet, they just knew the Dragon Balls were on Namek.TheGmGoken wrote:Nappa's scouter. But they should only know what Nappa and Vegeta said about going to Namek. Not what the Earthlings saidDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Vegeta's employers? They heard everything from his scouter? But didn't he went "IT'S OVER 9000 8000!!!!!!!!!!!!" and broke it to pieces?
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It's poorly phrased. It reads as if they had been expecting the Earthlings which we know can't be the case. Nevertheless, an ignorable error. I doubt it has any impact on the coming events.
I'm thinking that without Vegeta there to plunder that one village, Freeza will get all seven dragon balls much sooner. Which means he's going to find out he needs a password sooner. Which means Freeza won't have to leave the dragon balls unprotected since his men will mostly still be alive to go after the remaining Namekians. Which means there won't be an opportunity to resurrect Piccolo and Nail is probably going to wind up fighting Zarbon and Dodoria.
I'm thinking that without Vegeta there to plunder that one village, Freeza will get all seven dragon balls much sooner. Which means he's going to find out he needs a password sooner. Which means Freeza won't have to leave the dragon balls unprotected since his men will mostly still be alive to go after the remaining Namekians. Which means there won't be an opportunity to resurrect Piccolo and Nail is probably going to wind up fighting Zarbon and Dodoria.
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The art is pretty good.
And yeah it's mistranslated. In the French version they don't say Freeza's army "intercepted" the Earthlings, but "preceded" them, as in they got to Namek first and got the Dragon Balls first.
And yeah it's mistranslated. In the French version they don't say Freeza's army "intercepted" the Earthlings, but "preceded" them, as in they got to Namek first and got the Dragon Balls first.