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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 12/20

Post by MagicBox » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:45 am

Big Momma wrote:There might be some copyright issues going on there, actually. I'm not sure how that works.
I suppose I could understand that if it were true. The only reason I'm so skeptical is because FUNi actually used "Head-Cha-La" as the opening for every dubbed episode on their Dragon Boxes (except for 200-291, of course). I think they used it for about half of their movie double features as well. Those examples make it hard for me to give FUNi the benefit of the doubt here.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 12/20

Post by The Time Traveller » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:54 am

Are the Japanese credits and title cards included? It's one thing being forced to watch it cropped and given the ol' YouTube remastering treatment, but it'd suck even more having to see the English credits and titles every episode, unless you marathon mode that shit.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 12/20

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:09 am

The screens look better than I expected but still, having the muffled Japanese audio instead of the broadcast audio is a bit disappointing. :?
The Time Traveller wrote:Are the Japanese credits and title cards included? It's one thing being forced to watch it cropped and given the ol' YouTube remastering treatment, but it'd suck even more having to see the English credits and titles every episode, unless you marathon mode that shit.
IIRC the only FUNimation DBZ release with Japanese credits is the US Dragonbox Z.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:58 pm

Noice!!!!
These look really great! Better then I expected tbh.

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:22 pm

These are better than what I expected, I can see and get why the backgrounds are slightly blurred as they were trying to put focus on the character still wish they left it as is. Lines from the level sets and the new blues look about the same but it certainly looking better than what the trailers showed.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:26 pm

Eh, from these images, it looks about as bad as I feared and expected. The title shot from the opening looks great. I'm not going to lie. But, like the Level sets, it's most likely coming from a 35 mm source and already had an edge. There's also not much detail or texture to ruin. But I disagree that the characters look good. From what I can see, the brightness is still a huge problem, and elements like Gohan's face are totally bleached and blinding.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 12/20

Post by Ajay » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:32 pm

I can get over the grain removal, I can almost bear the cropping but like many have mentioned, those bleached skin tones are just awful. I can't look past that at all. Without grain, they just look their cels prior to photographing but when you're compromising even the original look of the cel...then you done fucked up.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:10 pm

To those who already own it does the "Sneak Peak" show how the process behind this remasterisation is being done?
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Post by Big Momma » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:23 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote: The title shot from the opening looks great. I'm not going to lie.

I thought the same. That title shot was the first one I saw, and tbh it looks amazing. The rest though....eh....better than I thought it would. Save for that shot of the farmer.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:29 pm

The characters, at least Piccolo, are still a little too bright, yeah...but it's bearable IMO. But again, I'm the guy who does still have the Season Sets and has no interest in these Blurays, so...my opinion counts for very little. :P

Those backgrounds are just horrendous regardless though, it's terrifying.
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Post by KingofWisdom » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:46 pm

Are there any anime series that have had worse non-Japanese remasters than Dragon Ball Z?
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 12/20

Post by Big Momma » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:51 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:Are there any anime series that have had worse non-Japanese remasters than Dragon Ball Z?
I've heard things about Ranma.
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Post by Black_Anime_Fan » Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:52 pm

My god these sets look atrocious. I can understand if you're buying these to review them, or just curious on how they look and everything. But it baffles me that there are actually people (especially around here) that think these look good. Seems like I have to keep my Orange Bricks...unfortunately.
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Post by Valentine » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:34 pm

Anyone uploaded any actual footage yet as of yet? I really wan't to see this in motion

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:53 pm

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Black_Anime_Fan wrote:My god these sets look atrocious. I can understand if you're buying these to review them, or just curious on how they look and everything. But it baffles me that there are actually people (especially around here) that think these look good. Seems like I have to keep my Orange Bricks...unfortunately.
These are above the orange bricks in pq, still prefer the dboxes though.

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Post by samuraix123 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:12 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:To those who already own it does the "Sneak Peak" show how the process behind this remasterisation is being done?
From what little information I gathered about it, Funimation used this machine to do the remastering process.
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Post by Black_Anime_Fan » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:46 am

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:These are above the orange bricks in pq, still prefer the dboxes though.
I can see that, but in my opinion you're really just getting the same thing (in HD of course, minus the missing lines). At least I still have my old FUNi/Pioneer single DVDs, but those haven't aged well.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:33 am

Valentine wrote:Anyone uploaded any actual footage yet as of yet? I really wan't to see this in motion
Hope you don't mean uploading it to YouTube.
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Post by supersaiyan3 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:59 am

MagicBox wrote: Is the "English with Japanese Music" track still the default audio option, like it was on the DVD season sets?
Yup, that's still the default.
The Time Traveller wrote:Are the Japanese credits and title cards included?
No. Every opening is textless, the title cards are in English, and the closing credits are English as well. They also decided to to go with a new font for the titles, credits, and subtitles:
dbboxkaifan wrote:To those who already own it does the "Sneak Peak" show how the process behind this remasterisation is being done?
The special feature was a few minutes of the cast & crew talking about unimportant behind-the-scenes stuff. All I heard was "We had no budget and didn't know what we were doing!" and "We realized we were sitting on a goldmine!" (only slightly paraphrased)

The only real content...
Matthew O'Hara: "What we're doing this time, is because of the nature of that 16 mm film--for those who are familar with film or the old look especially-- the 16 mm is a, uh, has a certain look to it, a certain characteristic you don't see in productions that are produced digitally. You'll see all kinds of imperfections, the grain, the shakiness. That's present in that old film; so what we've done is we've gone through it and it's a painstaking process, going through it frame-by-frame. We have a team working on it right now. We've been working on it for 2 years basically doing this process, where we're going through and looking for every blemish we can repair, stay true to the original show, and really make it new in a sense that it's going to be a fresh new look, it's going to brighter and bolder, and all of the details' gonna be really apparent when you see it on Blu-ray in HD, 'cause that's 6 times the detail of the DVD, plus all this restoration work. I think the fans will really like it"

and the tagline at the end...
Sabat: "See Dragon Ball Z like never before, and go behind the scenes, yesterday and today. Fully remastered in rich high-definition video. And featuring over five hours of exclusive interviews, production archives, and previously unreleased photos from the cast and crew who helped transform Dragon Ball Z into an international phenomenon. Relive the saga in a whole new way, the Ultimate Collector's Edition of Dragon Ball Z on Blu-ray. Collect them all!"
AjayLikesGaming wrote: I have two questions:

1) How did they handle the infamous 4 panel shot during the Saiyan arc?

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2) Audio? What's the deal - how's the Japanese track sounding with their 'remaster'?


EDIT: Thirdly - can someone take a proper lossless screenshot and upload it to i.minus.com - that site won't compress your images at all. I want to see how much/if any grain is in tact.
1) What episode is it in?

2) The voices and background music sound exactly the same to me compared to the dragon boxes. The Cha-La intro is the same as the orange bricks, which had a lot less low-end than the dragon boxes. It doesn't seem to me like there was any noticeable remastering.

3) http://min.us/m1LFsZYunDoQG
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 12/20

Post by B » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:10 am

There's a shot of the Turtle Sage drinking beer in that live-action trailer that looks really bad. The detail in his outline is pretty much gone, and everything is brightened to the point where his white beard blends in with the white foam of his beer. How's that look in the final product, if anyone knows?

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