"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by budokaifanatic007 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:30 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's been just about 2 months, almost to the day, between sets for quite some time. It's not really that long considering they have to decide what each set will cover, model and program the appropriate characters into the game, work out the stats and any new mechanics, design the cards in each new set and then manage to get them printed off and ready for placement in the arcade machines.
Well your right, never thought about it like that.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:55 am

Wait what can they add from the original DB Movies? Have they added anything Dragonball(First series) related? Like Kid Krillin, Grandpa Gohan, or Nam?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:14 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Wait what can they add from the original DB Movies? Have they added anything Dragonball(First series) related? Like Kid Krillin, Grandpa Gohan, or Nam?
Yeah: Kid Goku, Kid Kuririn, Muten Roshi, Muten Roshi (Max Power), Pirate Robot, Blue, Murasaki, Tao Pai Pai, Piccolo Daimao (Young) are all in the game (and will be playable by JM2 if they aren't already), plus a DB costume for Yamcha.

The DB movies would at least offer alternate costumes and card art. If you venture into Path to Power, you can have alternate designs too for characters like White or Metallic...though if Raichi and Hatchihyack are any indication, just because they use a newer design doesn't mean the game model will be of that newer design.
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Post by budokaifanatic007 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:28 am

I wonder how much work and how long it takes to make a character model in heroes.
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Post by DNA » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:14 am

Well, not only that, if you venture into the Dragon Ball movies, you can add new characters too. Bongo, Pasta and Gurumes from Legend of Shen Long, Ghastel and Lucifer from Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle and even the Giant Red Ribbon Battle Jacket from Path to Power. It's not just reskins.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:35 am

That is why I said "at least". I assumed the new characters were obvious, but there just aren't many of them in comparison (and DB movie 1's characters really aren't even fighters in the traditional DB sense). If they want to actually tackle the films, they should do more than just toss in the small handful of baddies (which combined, usually total less than the amount of new characters often introduced in a single DBZ film) to make including them in a set worth it.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:52 pm

budokaifanatic007 wrote:I wonder how much work and how long it takes to make a character model in heroes.
They are using a 10 year old game engine, so I don't think it takes that long.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by omegalucas » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:00 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:and a kid Gogeta Jr
Complete with drawing board and pencil, please :P
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:21 pm

Been seeing (Google translated) discussion about a Heroes gumi pack due out in March that will focus on the Majin Buu Arc, but apparently include Oozaru Bardock as well if the Amazon listing is correct. The Japanese side of the fanbase are already speculating that the DBZ portion of the JM3 set, which will be coming out at the same time, will revisit Buu with the debut of Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto.

Just figured I'd toss that out there.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:38 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Been seeing (Google translated) discussion about a Heroes gumi pack due out in March that will focus on the Majin Buu Arc, but apparently include Oozaru Bardock as well if the Amazon listing is correct. The Japanese side of the fanbase are already speculating that the DBZ portion of the JM3 set, which will be coming out at the same time, will revisit Buu with the debut of Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto.

Just figured I'd toss that out there.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:42 pm

It would be cool if Vegito finally gets a SSj3 form. I guess we need GT Goten to go SSj3 to finish up the SSj3 line up.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:59 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:It would be cool if Vegito finally gets a SSj3 form. I guess we need GT Goten to go SSj3 to finish up the SSj3 line up.
I'm gonna crack up if a trailer shows SSJ3 Vegito fighting Beerus.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:05 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:It would be cool if Vegito finally gets a SSj3 form. I guess we need GT Goten to go SSj3 to finish up the SSj3 line up.
I'm gonna crack up if a trailer shows SSJ3 Vegito fighting Beerus.
Before Vegetto comes we MUST get SSJ3 Goten. Its only reasonable. Then again they most likely going by popularity

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:35 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:we MUST get SSJ3 Goten.
Totally agreed. I just can't picture a what-if scenario where Trunks transforms, but not Goten. It feels... uncomfortable.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:48 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:we MUST get SSJ3 Goten.
Totally agreed. I just can't picture a what-if scenario where Trunks transforms, but not Goten. It feels... uncomfortable.
After Goten and Vegito, I really hope they stop with all the SSJ3's.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:09 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:After Goten and Vegito, I really hope they stop with all the SSJ3's.
We would probably still have some Super Saiyan 3 characters in the game's future after that, though I don't know how many old characters will get it. The Saiyan Avatars are likely still going to get Super Saiyan 3, but they are new characters. If this set really does give us Super Saiyan 2 Bardock, we may see it added to Bardock's arsenal down the line too...
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:11 pm

Well, since they've given Super Saiyan 3 to Trunks: GT after Trunks: Future got it, I see no reason why Gohan: Adolescent and Gohan: GT won't get it, since Gohan: Future got it.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:12 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:After Goten and Vegito, I really hope they stop with all the SSJ3's.
We would probably still have some Super Saiyan 3 characters in the game's future after that, though I don't know how many old characters will get it. The Saiyan Avatars are likely still going to get Super Saiyan 3, but they are new characters. If this set really does give us Super Saiyan 2 Bardock, we may see it added to Bardock's arsenal down the line too...
You think we will ever get a SSJ3...Raditz or Nappa? I know they aren't really popular but is it possible?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:21 pm

Having Radditz or Nappa go SSj3 won't make sense since they never went SSj and skipping SSJ1 - SSj2 won't feel right. To finish the SSj3 line up, we need:

SSj3 GT Goten
SSj3 Vegito
SSj3 Buu Saga Gohan
SSj3 GT Gohan
SSj3 Avatars
SSj3 Bardock (ugh)

I think after SSj3, we will start getting SSj4 cards. DBH has been known to milk the shit out of everything, so SSj4 won't be that far off.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:22 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: I think after SSj3, we will start getting SSj4 cards. DBH has been known to milk the shit out of everything, so SSj4 won't be that far off.
Not Super Saiyan 2 :(

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