Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated

[Cursed Lemon]

I meant regular Vegeta not Majin Vegeta. Aka Pre Majin Vegeta I have weaker than SSJ2 Kid Gohan. SSj2 Vegeta got his ASS KICKED by Pure Boo in the manga. He didn't even land at hit. Vegeta is just durable.

I was under the impression that Vegeta reached SSJ2 with the help of Babidi, could be wrong.

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Broly belts Any SSj2 tier Guy in a few hits

[KentalSSJ6]

Broly belts Any SSj2 tier Guy in a few hits

Just out of curiosity, how the hell are you posting when it says your banned?

[Kamiccolo9]

Broly belts Any SSj2 tier Guy in a few hits

Just out of curiosity, how the hell are you posting when it says your banned?

Magic.

As long as we're saying where we have Broly, I think Perfect Cell range for M8 and slightly stronger than SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta for M10.

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Magic

Regardless, Broly Destroyed a SSj2 who said that he was stronger. And the guy who created him even admit that he could not find anyone stronger than Broly. Automatically puts him above any SSj2 tier by a large margin

[KentalSSJ6]

Magic

Regardless, Broly Destroyed a SSj2 who said that he was stronger. And the guy who created him even admit that he could not find anyone stronger than Broly. Automatically puts him above any SSj2 tier by a large margin

Yeah..gonna have to disagree with you there.

Broly fought Buu Saga Gohan in movie 10, which everyone knows is weaker than he was during the Cell Saga. On top of that, Gohan managed to get a few hits in on Broly that even made Broly stagger. Not to mention movie 10 Broly is stronger than movie 8 Broly.

If a Buu saga SSJ2 Gohan can cause Movie 10 Broly to stagger than a Cell Saga SSJ2 Gohan would be enough to handle him.

Heres their whole fight http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2 ... 705wzn.jpg

Gohan gets hits on Broly at 6:09, 6:53, and 12:34.

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Magic

Regardless, Broly Destroyed a SSj2 who said that he was stronger. And the guy who created him even admit that he could not find anyone stronger than Broly. Automatically puts him above any SSj2 tier by a large margin

Yeah..gonna have to disagree with you there.

Broly fought Buu Saga Gohan in movie 10, which everyone knows is weaker than he was during the Cell Saga. On top of that, Gohan managed to get a few hits in on Broly that even made Broly stagger. Not to mention movie 10 Broly is stronger than movie 8 Broly.

If a Buu saga SSJ2 Gohan can cause Movie 10 Broly to stagger than a Cell Saga SSJ2 Gohan would be enough to handle him.

Heres their whole fight http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2 ... 705wzn.jpg

Gohan gets hits on Broly at 6:09, 6:53, and 12:34.

Gohan is said to be as strong as he was when he was a Child. Only difference is he cannot access his Rage boost like before. but it means nothing, Gohan said he powered up. Gohan never said he powered up nor mentions it in Manga/Anime Buu saga.

Landing hits mean nothing, broly never tried to dodge anyways. he tanked 3/4 hits, Barely budging is excellent tank feat and tanking a punch without even blinking is even better.

Broly destroys any SSJ2 tier guy in a few hits, its no contest.

[dbzfan7]

For me personally I have M8 Broly in the range of Perfect Cell or lower. For Movie 10 I'd say a little above SSJ2. Any form of Boo creams him. But this is just MY opinion.

[MDSTSSJ]

Over time I've changed my mind a little about Broly. I have Movie 10 LSSJ Broly strong as Super Perfect Cell/SSJ2 enraged Gohan. BUT, Boo Arc SSJ2 Kakarotto and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta are more powerful than those 2. So Broly could give some fight but eventually he would lose against SSJ2 Majin Vegeta or SSJ2 Kakarotto.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Heres their whole fight http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2 ... 705wzn.jpg

Errr... about that link...

[Zephyr]

Broly destroys any SSJ2 tier guy in a few hits, its no contest.

The only logical conclusion we have about Broly is that he is stronger than SSj2 Gohan.

SSj2 Vegeta, who was on par with Goku to the T, was stated by Piccolo to be superior to SSj2 Gohan.

M10 LSSj Broly is never once compared directly to SSj2 Vegeta or SSj2 Goku.

Thusly, SSj2 Goku, SSj2 Vegeta, and M10 LSj Broly are all classified as "superior to SSj2 Gohan", and anything beyond that is your own subjective interpretation of the material presented.

The logical conclusion here is that Broly himself is in the SSj2 tier.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Broly destroys any SSJ2 tier guy in a few hits, its no contest.

The only logical conclusion we have about Broly is that he is stronger than SSj2 Gohan.

SSj2 Vegeta, who was on par with Goku to the T, was stated by Piccolo to be superior to SSj2 Gohan.

M10 LSSj Broly is never once compared directly to SSj2 Vegeta or SSj2 Goku.

Thusly, SSj2 Goku, SSj2 Vegeta, and M10 LSj Broly are all classified as "superior to SSj2 Gohan", and anything beyond that is your own subjective interpretation of the material presented.

The logical conclusion here is that Broly himself is in the SSj2 tier.

I really doubt that SS2 Gohan's punches would barely affect SS2 Goku or Vegeta, especially when the difference between SS2 Goku/Vegeta (post-Majin) & Enraged SS2 Gohan is implied to be small, SS2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) is implied to be weaker than Enraged SS2 Gohan, who is implied to be around the same level with SP Cell, and base Gohan is implied to be close in power with Goku, since they were supposed to use Fusion, which requires similar powers. SS2 Goku & Vegeta (pre & post Majin) are superior to SS2 Gohan, but LSS Broli is shown to be far superior to SS2 Gohan.

[Cursed Lemon]

We are never going to know exactly how much weaker Buu-era Gohan is compared to Cell saga Gohan.

On one hand, Gohan is older with a much more capable body (bear in mind, this basically never matters in DBZ).

On the other hand, he spends seven straight years NOT training.

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We are never going to know exactly how much weaker Buu-era Gohan is compared to Cell saga Gohan.

On one hand, Gohan is older with a much more capable body (bear in mind, this basically never matters in DBZ).

On the other hand, he spends seven straight years NOT training.

M10 Gohan spent 7 years training, his base > SSj kids

Regardless, No SSj2 alive high or low is going to do what broly done

[Cursed Lemon]

M10 Gohan spent 7 years training

wat

[Kamiccolo9]

We are never going to know exactly how much weaker Buu-era Gohan is compared to Cell saga Gohan.

On one hand, Gohan is older with a much more capable body (bear in mind, this basically never matters in DBZ).

On the other hand, he spends seven straight years NOT training.

M10 Gohan spent 7 years training, his base > SSj kids

Regardless, No SSj2 alive high or low is going to do what broly done

Provide quotes please. I don't recall M10 Gohan ever saying he kept up his training.

[Zephyr]

I really doubt that SS2 Gohan's punches would barely affect SS2 Goku or Vegeta, especially when the difference between SS2 Goku/Vegeta (post-Majin) & Enraged SS2 Gohan is implied to be small, SS2 Vegeta (pre-Majin) is implied to be weaker than Enraged SS2 Gohan, who is implied to be around the same level with SP Cell, and base Gohan is implied to be close in power with Goku, since they were supposed to use Fusion, which requires similar powers. SS2 Goku & Vegeta (pre & post Majin) are superior to SS2 Gohan, but LSS Broli is shown to be far superior to SS2 Gohan.

Fair enough. Though hasn't Gohan's power during the Cell games in relation his power during the Buu arc often been inconsistent? Some sources implying he's weaker, some implying he's the same?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Fair enough. Though hasn't Gohan's power during the Cell games in relation his power during the Buu arc often been inconsistent? Some sources implying he's weaker, some implying he's the same?

Well, Vegeta says about SS2 Gohan in the tournament that he is weaker than he was in the Cell Games (obviously, since Gohan doesn't have a rage boost there), and then when he is fighting Dabra, he gets impatient with Gohan because Dabra is supposed to be someone that Gohan should be able to beat, and says that he was stronger as a brat (but again, he also doesn't have a rage boost here, and he isn't even using SS2 if you go by... everything but D7). The we have D2 stating that Gohan is as strong as he was in the Cell Games, but due to the lack of training, he can't get a rage boost, and can't get as strong as he was against Cell.