The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Beers is stated to be the strongest being in the history of Z, so Beers is stronger than Evolved Hildegarn, Gohan Boo, Pure Boo, Super Vegetto, Super Janenba, SS3 Broli, etc. Assuming that the statement applies to everything that is DBZ except BoG, since Whis is the real strongest. And since Beers is stronger than Super Vegetto, who is in around the same level as SS4 Goku, who is also around the same level as SS4 Vegeta, Oozaru Baby, and True Form Si Xing Long (the 2nd strongest of the Evil Dragons).

[TheGmGoken]

There's nothing saying Hirudegarn > Beers. Excepting a V-Jump comment that was later proven false, there's also nothing saying Beers > Hirudegarn.

How about Birsu being named strongest in history. Is that not proof enough?

[RandomGuy96]

There's nothing saying Hirudegarn > Beers. Excepting a V-Jump comment that was later proven false, there's also nothing saying Beers > Hirudegarn.

How about Birsu being named strongest in history. Is that not proof enough?

That's the V-Jump comment I was talking about. The one that was later proven false.

[TheGmGoken]

There's nothing saying Hirudegarn > Beers. Excepting a V-Jump comment that was later proven false, there's also nothing saying Beers > Hirudegarn.

How about Birsu being named strongest in history. Is that not proof enough?

That's the V-Jump comment I was talking about. The one that was later proven false.

No it wasn't........

[RandomGuy96]

So Beers is stronger than Whis?

[hleV]

So Beers is stronger than Whis?

In before retarded explanations for why Whis is an exception to that statement.

[Cardle grave]

Bills Should be Below SSj2 Vegito, higher than SSJ Vegito

[Kaboom]

So Beers is stronger than Whis?

In before retarded explanations for why Whis is an exception to that statement.

Is this type of comment really necessary?

And Whis would be the exception to it. For one, Beerus' citation as the strongest in the "history" of Z means "up until now," whereas Whis' strength was revealed after the fact. Furthermore, Whis being revealed as stronger at the end of the film would be spoilery and not the kind of thing you'd reveal in pre-release promotional material.

[Friezacooler]

except bills is 4 times the power of SSJ vegito? and a weakened Hirudegarn without tail cut by magical sword. lost to a haxed Ability, not SSJ3 Goku.but doesn't mean anything since even Bills has a weakness which is a pot of chili

[KentalSSJ6]

except bills is 4 times the power of SSJ vegito? and a weakened Hirudegarn without tail cut by magical sword. lost to a haxed Ability, not SSJ3 Goku.but doesn't mean anything since even Bills has a weakness which is a pot of chili

All we know is Beerus is stronger than Super Vegito. By how much hasent been revealed.

[RandomGuy96]

except bills is 4 times the power of SSJ vegito? and a weakened Hirudegarn without tail cut by magical sword. lost to a haxed Ability, not SSJ3 Goku.but doesn't mean anything since even Bills has a weakness which is a pot of chili

All we know is Beerus is stronger than Super Vegito. By how much hasent been revealed.

Actually, we don't know that.

[Kaboom]

Actually, we don't know that.

How so? "Strongest being in the history of Z" seems pretty straightforward to me. The only possible exception would be Vegetto as a Super Saiyan 2 or 3, since he never used anything higher than SSJ1. Is that what you mean? If so, I actually agree.

except bills is 4 times the power of SSJ vegito? and a weakened Hirudegarn without tail cut by magical sword. lost to a haxed Ability, not SSJ3 Goku.but doesn't mean anything since even Bills has a weakness which is a pot of chili

This is next to incomprehensible. What are you trying to say?

[Friezacooler]

Indeed as Vegito hasn't been mentioned in battle of gods at all, however within a interview with Akira Toriyama don't know if it is reliable has vegito 6, Birusu 10, and Whis 15 proply talking about power difference's, not sure.

[Kamiccolo9]

Indeed as Vegito hasn't been mentioned in battle of gods at all, however within a interview with Akira Toriyama don't know if it is reliable has vegito 6, Birusu 10, and Whis 15 proply talking about power difference's, not sure.

That interview has Super Saiyan God Goku at 6, not Vegeto.

[Friezacooler]

Indeed as Vegito hasn't been mentioned in battle of gods at all, however within a interview with Akira Toriyama don't know if it is reliable has vegito 6, Birusu 10, and Whis 15 proply talking about power difference's, not sure.

That interview has SSJG Goku at 6, not Vegeto.

lol my mistake still Vegito hasn't been mentioned in that interview either. Dragonfist hasn't been used against BOG characters either, and BOG characters haven't shown anything more impressive than what wrath of the dragon characters are capable of or any of the other dragonball verses.

[KentalSSJ6]

Indeed as Vegito hasn't been mentioned in battle of gods at all, however within a interview with Akira Toriyama don't know if it is reliable has vegito 6, Birusu 10, and Whis 15 proply talking about power difference's, not sure.

That interview has Super Saiyan God Goku at 6, not Vegeto.

If we assume the numbers for SSJG Goku and Beerus are the numbers for their max power, id have to say Super Vegito would be a 5 or 5.5 at max.

I'm iffy on whether or not Vegito can go SSJ3, seeing as Vegeta cant, but I can see SSJ2 being more than possible seeing as both Goku and Vegeta have it.

Then again...Goten and Trunks could make Gotenks go SSJ3 despite neither of them having SSJ2. So, yeah take that with a grain of salt I suppose.

[goku the krump dancer]

Beerus is stronger than SSJ Vegetto sure but nothing suggest that Godku is too. For all intents and purposes SSJGod Goku and SSJ Vegetto could be even. Its pretty much up for grabs since Beerus is stronger than both of 'em anyway.

[hleV]

Beerus' citation as the strongest in the "history" of Z means "up until now,"

If Beerus is strongest in the history of Z, that in turn means that Beerus is IN the history of Z, and that in turn means that Whis is IN the history of Z as well (because they were introduced at the same time), and THAT, my friend, in turn means that the statement is invalid because it says that Beerus is stronger than Whis.

[RandomGuy96]

How so? "Strongest being in the history of Z" seems pretty straightforward to me. The only possible exception would be Vegetto as a Super Saiyan 2 or 3, since he never used anything higher than SSJ1. Is that what you mean? If so, I actually agree.

That comment doesn't apply, since Beers isn't actually the strongest. There's an understandable out of universe reason for not revealing this, but that doesn't change anything. Either Beers is the strongest or the statement is false. We are shown that the statement is false.

That's not what I think though. I'm just emphasizing that nothing says Beers HAS to be stronger than Super Vegetto or even Buuhan.

I personally see Beers as considerably stronger than SS3 Vegetto, since Goku saw the god power as a realm of power he never thought could exist, and unlike with the last big threat no one suggested Vegetto as a way to beat Beers. Like this:

Whis- 15
Beers- 10
Godku- 6
SS3 Vegetto- 4

Syn Shenron- 8
--Fused with DBs- 80
SS4 Goku- 0.5
--x10 Kamehameha- 5

[Friezacooler]

Beerus is stronger than SSJ Vegetto sure but nothing suggest that Godku is too. For all intents and purposes SSJGod Goku and SSJ Vegetto could be even. Its pretty much up for grabs since Beerus is stronger than both of 'em anyway.

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More like nothing suggests that Birusu is stronger than Vegito, as Vegito hasn't been mentioned in BOG, but Birusu is indeed stronger than SSJ God.