Is Vegetto the Strongest of Any Anime Characters?

[Gaffer Tape]

The gods in Dragon Ball universe do not count.

Any why exactly?

Well, I wanted to focus on the mortality. If the gods were to involved in this discussion, Vegetto wouldn't be a conversation. Obviously Vegetto is not a god, so it isn't fair to compare him to gods.

I still don't get why gods don't count, especially if it's limited only to Dragon Ball gods. The humans in DB surpass gods all the time, so there's nothing in the makeup of gods that makes it unfair to compare to.

[Friezacooler]

GT > BOG = Vegito > Anime Buuhan > Other Anime verses. That is how the pecking order goes.

[Rocketman]

blackhole buster

What the fuck is this shit.

[Hellspawn28]

Beerus - Galaxy Buster

I thought in the movie it said that he can destroy a whole solar system, not a Galaxy. DBZ is strong, but there are stronger franchises out there. Even Transformers have a few characters that could solo all of Dragon Ball.

Super Buu's whole universal dimension rip thing was a filler. Vegito lacks good feats to view him as his own character, so he's not even closet to being the strongest anime character. He's not even the strongest DB character since we know that Beerus and Uisu could beat him.

The part where he opens up the dimension thingy in ROSAT is not filler or are you talking about something else?

There's a filler scene where Buuhan was screaming causing the whole Planet to go dark and Dende said that he could destroy the whole Universe. The daizenshuu states it can destroy the universe via chain reaction.

[Friezacooler]

Beerus - Galaxy Buster

I thought in the movie it said that he can destroy a whole solar system, not a Galaxy. DBZ is strong, but there are stronger franchises out there. Even Transformers have a few characters that could solo all of Dragon Ball.

Super Buu's whole universal dimension rip thing was a filler. Vegito lacks good feats to view him as his own character, so he's not even closet to being the strongest anime character. He's not even the strongest DB character since we know that Beerus and Uisu could beat him.

The part where he opens up the dimension thingy in ROSAT is not filler or are you talking about something else?

There's a filler scene where Buuhan was screaming causing the whole Planet to go dark and Dende said that he could destroy the whole Universe. The daizenshuu states it can destroy the universe via chain reaction.

Calling it filler doesn't change the feat at all, and considering copy rights ownership etc it isn't filler at all.

[DarkPrince_92]

Pretty sure Whis is the most powerful DBZ character we've seen so far considering he one-shotted Beerus with little effort.

[Kamiccolo9]

Calling it filler doesn't change the feat at all, and considering copy rights ownership etc it isn't filler at all.

....Do you know what filler is? It it the part of the series made by Toei to pad out the anime so it doesn't catch up to the manga. "Copyright ownership" doesn't keep it from being filler.

[Vegard Aune]

Calling it filler doesn't change the feat at all, and considering copy rights ownership etc it isn't filler at all.

....Do you know what filler is? It it the part of the series made by Toei to pad out the anime so it doesn't catch up to the manga. "Copyright ownership" doesn't keep it from being filler.

Strictly speaking anything inserted for the sole sake of padding something out would be filler. Be it original content added to an adaptation or not. You can have anime-original content without it being filler (say if Toriyama ever thought he'd rushed a certain development and so asked the anime-crew to add a bit more material to provide some more natural buildup... It'd be anime-original, sure, but it would serve a purpose in the story and so it couldn't really be considered filler) just as how there can be filler in the source-material as well (Say if Toriyama made an entire chapter of Goku staring at a brick wall with absolutely zero plot- or character-development happening and then this chapter is never ever mentioned again... for an admittedly rather extreme example).

[KentalSSJ6]

Fact of the matter is STTGL is likely the strongest being in all of anime and manga and beats roughly 90% of all fiction.

STTGL is its own self sustaining universe who can create out of nothing and is so big its height registers in the billions of lightyears. Hell in its fight with the Anti-Spiral they create another big bang, not to mention its previous form tanked a blast on par with the birth of the universe.

Man, I'm still not impressed with all of this. If Vegetto was that big he could do all what you listed in base form which means he could do just about everything Super Tengen Toupa can but 400x better in SSJ3.

Please tell me your not being serious.

[Kamiccolo9]

Calling it filler doesn't change the feat at all, and considering copy rights ownership etc it isn't filler at all.

....Do you know what filler is? It it the part of the series made by Toei to pad out the anime so it doesn't catch up to the manga. "Copyright ownership" doesn't keep it from being filler.

Strictly speaking anything inserted for the sole sake of padding something out would be filler. Be it original content added to an adaptation or not. You can have anime-original content without it being filler (say if Toriyama ever thought he'd rushed a certain development and so asked the anime-crew to add a bit more material to provide some more natural buildup... It'd be anime-original, sure, but it would serve a purpose in the story and so it couldn't really be considered filler) just as how there can be filler in the source-material as well (Say if Toriyama made an entire chapter of Goku staring at a brick wall with absolutely zero plot- or character-development happening and then this chapter is never ever mentioned again... for an admittedly rather extreme example).

This is true, but, in the context of Dragon Ball and it's anime-original content, it is filler. Unless you count the movies and OVA's, I can't think of any anime-original content in Dragon Ball that wouldn't qualify as filler.

[goku the krump dancer]

Fact of the matter is STTGL is likely the strongest being in all of anime and manga and beats roughly 90% of all fiction.

STTGL is its own self sustaining universe who can create out of nothing and is so big its height registers in the billions of lightyears. Hell in its fight with the Anti-Spiral they create another big bang, not to mention its previous form tanked a blast on par with the birth of the universe.

Man, I'm still not impressed with all of this. If Vegetto was that big he could do all what you listed in base form which means he could do just about everything Super Tengen Toupa can but 400x better in SSJ3.

Please tell me your not being serious.

Dead serious.. Is Vegetto a universe in of itself? of course not. Can he create frying pans and hour glasses outta thin air? No, but thats something he could probably learn if he wanted to.

Vegetto being the itty bitty normal size that he already is, can tank and laugh off Planet Busting and perhaps Solar System Busting Ki Blast in Base form.

[The Monkey King]

No he is not.

Of course not. And you only have to read this list to understand why (one character per franchise):
20 - Atomosk (FLCL) - Pirate king who saves the galaxy, can steal entire solar systems

How will stealing things help him in a fight?

23 - Hellstar Remina (Hellstar Remina) - Planet and Star devourer

Not sure if that's enough to beat Vegito.

24 - Alkanphel (Guyver) - Destroyed an asteroid 2 or 3 times the size of The Moon.

That's bearly saiyan saga level.

27 - Quat Nevas (Psyren) - Planet Devourer

Only planet level? Not enough to beat Vegito.

29 - One Punch Man (One Punch Man) - Can beat any enemy with one punch, however he still lacks feats and will probably be much higher in the future

I dunno. Sounds like a No-Limits Falacy. Could he one shot STTGL?

[Kamiccolo9]

This guy laughs at Vegetto.

[Hellspawn28]

Alkanphel and Guyver XD at their best is around Freeza's first form. No one in the Guyver would beat Buu or Vegito.

Super Buu's whole universal dimension rip thing was a filler. Vegito lacks good feats to view him as his own character, so he's not even closet to being the strongest anime character. He's not even the strongest DB character since we know that Beerus and Uisu could beat him.

The gods in Dragon Ball universe do not count.

Gods do count since they are apart of the universe. Beerus is stated to be to be the strongest villain in DB history which means he's stronger then any villain in the franchise even the Shadow Dragons. So Vegito can't be the strongest anime character ever when he's not even the strongest character in the franchise. If we go by GT then SSj4 Gogeta is stronger then him.

DB at their best is at solar system busting. I think anything higher then that could solo Dragon Ball.

[rereboy]

blackhole buster

What the fuck is this shit.

It probably means that it was shown to be able to destroy black holes or somehow nullify them (I didn't watch it myself).

No he is not.

Of course not. And you only have to read this list to understand why (one character per franchise):
20 - Atomosk (FLCL) - Pirate king who saves the galaxy, can steal entire solar systems

How will stealing things help him in a fight?

23 - Hellstar Remina (Hellstar Remina) - Planet and Star devourer

Not sure if that's enough to beat Vegito.

24 - Alkanphel (Guyver) - Destroyed an asteroid 2 or 3 times the size of The Moon.

That's bearly saiyan saga level.

27 - Quat Nevas (Psyren) - Planet Devourer

Only planet level? Not enough to beat Vegito.

29 - One Punch Man (One Punch Man) - Can beat any enemy with one punch, however he still lacks feats and will probably be much higher in the future

I dunno. Sounds like a No-Limits Falacy. Could he one shot STTGL?

I put up a list I saw somewhere else of strongest characters in anime/manga in response to the original poster claim that Vegetto was the strongest anime character. Not all of the characters on the list surpass Vegetto but a great deal of them do. DB is represented by Beerus in the list (Whis is stronger, I know, but we really don't know anything else besides that so it would be kind of hard to place him instead of Beerus).

Man, I'm still not impressed with all of this. If Vegetto was that big he could do all what you listed in base form which means he could do just about everything Super Tengen Toupa can but 400x better in SSJ3.

That's true but being big is part of the character just like being a Saiyan and having Ki is part of Vegetto. So, following the same logic, we could also argue that if that guy had SSJs transformations he would be much stronger.

[mmg86]

goku the krump dancer, to be honest your post offends me. Claiming that "if character A had (insert attribute) from character B, he would be stronger" is... i have no words for it. And hell, in the case of STTGL, you could make Vegetto as large as it, or STTGL the size of a human, and it wouldnt change anything in my opinion, because STTGL has tons of other powers.

It can absorb energy to fire it back or to power himself up (and i dont mean energy lent to it, as in a Genki Dama... i mean ATTACKS directed at it), fire attacks that time travel or dimension hop (meaning that it can, while safe in another dimension, send an attack that kills your past self... yeah...), manipulate probability (making the impossible possible and viceversa...), Spiral Recognition System (the ability to locate anything by thinking about it, doesnt need a ki signal or anything of the sort)... people tend to only mention the size of it because that is its most distinguishing feature, not its only one...

Hell, Lagann-Hen even proves that its smaller forms can overpower its stronger ones if the pilots are motivated enough, as plain old Gurren Lagann overpowered the Anti-Giga Drill Breaker (an attack much more powerful than the Big Bang), and Gurren Lagann is merely building sized... you think Vegetto could overpower that attack if we enlarge him to the size of a building?

The Monkey King, since i read Hellstar Remina i might as well talk a bit about it. Its a living, gigantic planet (was larger than Jupiter if i remember correctly) that usually moves at roughly lightspeed (scientists studying it mention that "sometimes it moves slightly slower, sometimes slightly faster"), EATS planets because well, what else do you expect something that size to feed on,right? Can destroy them by crashing into them too, while taking no damage whatsoever... and on its way to our solar system, stars where disappearing (we dont know how Remina destroyed them, but it did...)

Here is a pic of it about to feast on Mars http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz19 ... 8e2b20.jpg

[Hellspawn28]

Victor Prime could always reverse time and make Vegito into sperm .

[Friezacooler]

Potara earrings would defy that. Anime Buuhan >>> whis and Bills.

[Hellspawn28]

Anime Buuhan is no different then he was in the manga other then he can make a universal scream that is done with a chain reaction. Vegito stop his scream with a single punch from what I can remember.

[rereboy]

Potara earrings would defy that. Anime Buuhan >>> whis and Bills.

Whis and Bills are anime only and are somewhat implied to be stronger than Vegetto, so what you said doesn't make sense.