The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Post by Kid Buu » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:57 am

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:12 am

Dabra vs. General Rildo

Balance power levels. Who wins?
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:30 pm

DBZ SSJG Gogeta VS GT SSJ4 Gogeta.
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Post by Piccolo jr » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:54 pm

Base Saiyans vs Piccolo/Frieza.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:56 pm

Piccolo jr wrote:Base Saiyans vs Piccolo/Freeza.
Any time up until after the 3 years spent training for the Androids, the Base Saiyans beat Piccolo. After that, he stomps them at any time.
Freeza always stomps them, unless it's Buu Arc Goku using Kaio-Ken or something.
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Post by SSJ3_Gogeta » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:27 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Dabra vs. General Rildo

Balance power levels. Who wins?
General Rildo can assimilate various parts and even become part of anything metal. This will most likely overwhelm Dabura.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:DBZ SSJG Gogeta VS GT SSJ4 Gogeta.
Even though SSJG is the superior transformation, Base GT Gogeta would be so much stronger than Base Z Gogeta that his SSJ4 overtakes Z's SSJG.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:08 pm

SSjG should be more powerful then SSj4 since it been mention that SSjG Goku is his strongest form. Beerus is stated to be the strongest villain in DB history, so he could own Bebi, Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons. So SSjG Gogeta>SSj4 Gogeta in my opinion.
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Post by Kaboom » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:20 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSjG should be more powerful then SSj4 since it been mention that SSjG Goku is his strongest form. Beerus is stated to be the strongest villain in DB history, so he could own Bebi, Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons. So SSjG Gogeta>SSj4 Gogeta in my opinion.
Do you have sources for those that we've missed? I've been seeing the 'strongest form' one tossed around a bit, but when it comes to Beerus all I know is that the promotional material cited him as the "strongest being in the history of Z," i.e. DBZ, i.e. not necessarily the entire franchise including GT.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:23 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSjG should be more powerful then SSj4 since it been mention that SSjG Goku is his strongest form. Beerus is stated to be the strongest villain in DB history, so he could own Bebi, Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons. So SSjG Gogeta>SSj4 Gogeta in my opinion.
SSJG's power is entirely dependent on those involved in the ritual. Theres nothing implying that the form has a set multiplier.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:33 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:SSjG should be more powerful then SSj4 since it been mention that SSjG Goku is his strongest form. Beerus is stated to be the strongest villain in DB history, so he could own Bebi, Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons. So SSjG Gogeta>SSj4 Gogeta in my opinion.
Do you have sources for those that we've missed? I've been seeing the 'strongest form' one tossed around a bit, but when it comes to Beerus all I know is that the promotional material cited him as the "strongest being in the history of Z," i.e. DBZ, i.e. not necessarily the entire franchise including GT.
The "strongest form" thing comes from a video game.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:11 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:The "strongest form" thing comes from a video game.
Would that be Battle of Z? If so, that doesn't even include Super Saiyan 4. But if it's something like Heroes that gives every form in existence to everyone, then we might be on to something.

Not that I'm disagreeing that SSJ God is stronger than SSJ4. It just helps to have sources.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:22 am

SS Vegeta (Majin Boo Arc) vs Perfect Cell (Full Power)
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Post by SSJ3_Gogeta » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:09 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:SS Vegeta (Majin Boo Arc) vs Perfect Cell (Full Power)
I have SSJ Majin Vegeta just above Perfect Cell, so non-Majin Vegeta loses unless he uses SSJ2.
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Post by Kaboom » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:14 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:SS Vegeta (Majin Boo Arc) vs Perfect Cell (Full Power)
Before Bobbidi's power-up, he's too far behind and gets his butt kicked. After it, he's very close and puts up a good fight, but still ultimately loses.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:18 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:SS Vegeta (Majin Boo Arc) vs Perfect Cell (Full Power)
Before Bobbidi's power-up, he's too far behind and gets his butt kicked. After it, he's very close and puts up a good fight, but still ultimately loses.
That's how I see it as well.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:22 pm

Both the pre and post Majin upgrade versions if Vegeta get their clocks cleaned. But only one of them gets one shotted.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Post by kuartus4 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:03 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:SS Vegeta (Majin Boo Arc) vs Perfect Cell (Full Power)
SSJ majin vegeta vs full power perfect cell ends the same way as post 1st zenkai vegeta vs monster zarbon. In both fights the opponent has a less than 25 % advantage on vegeta.

ssj pre majin vegeta gets one shotted.

ssj pre majin vegeta=100
full power perfect cell=165
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:43 pm

I don't think any Super Saiyan (sans fusion) could beat Full-Power Cell.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:51 pm

How is SSJ Vegeta post Majin power-up still inferior to full-power Cell, if SSJ2 Vegeta post Majin boost is stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan?
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Post by Draken » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:52 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:How is SSJ Vegeta post Majin power-up still inferior to full-power Cell, if SSJ2 Vegeta post Majin boost is stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan?
Because SSJ Kid Gohan was inferior to FPPC?
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