Is Vegetto the Strongest of Any Anime Characters?

[dbzfan7]

That is huge...I also don't like Mecha Anime....but I love Megas XLR...only giant robot show I love.

[KentalSSJ6]

That is huge...I also don't like Mecha Anime....but I love Megas XLR...only giant robot show I love.

I honestly believe that Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann may be the largest thing in fiction. I just dont see anything coming even remotely close to it besides the Super Anti Spiral.

[dbzfan7]

That is huge...I also don't like Mecha Anime....but I love Megas XLR...only giant robot show I love.

I honestly believe that Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann may be the largest thing in fiction. I just dont see anything coming even remotely close to it besides the Super Anti Spiral.

There's probably bigger.

[goku the krump dancer]

I'm not denying Vegetto would lose but his destructive capabilities are in the same lane as Tengen Toppa's to where I believe if they were the same height, whether it be Vegetto growing larger or TTGL down sizing Vegetto's chances of winning increases drastically.

Gotenks and Super Boo screamed and put wholes in dimensions and Vegetto is literally stronger than both of them combined. Fan Manga's shouldn't be a source of reference at all but I believe Vegetto bursting out of dimensional traps with just a simple kiai burst (from DB Multiverse) isn't too far off of what he's capable of, So thats something he could do if he wanted imo.

[Rocketman]

The Wicked Avatar. Copies its opponent's size and strength, but is always stronger.

Oh, you have a Superdimensional Robot Galaxy Destroyer. Nice. Avatar is stronger.

[mmg86]

That is huge...I also don't like Mecha Anime....but I love Megas XLR...only giant robot show I love.

I honestly believe that Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann may be the largest thing in fiction. I just dont see anything coming even remotely close to it besides the Super Anti Spiral.

Well, from the things i always hear about it, Demonbane is sooo big the universe pops like a bubble as it outgrows it. And in DC, you have the Thought Robot, also known as Cosmic Armor Superman. So large that in comparison, a universe is only a bit bigger than a basketball compared to it.

Rocketman, there is a thing i wonder about. Does Wicked Avatar copy special abilities? Or merely stats? Because it wouldnt do it much good if it, for example, copied say Dio from JoJo Bizarre Adventure, and gained his speed and strength... without The World. For an example that would be better understood in this board, say it copies Ginew. Does it get access to the body swap power?

[Hellspawn28]

Where you are getting this Mutliverse crap from? It was stated that Buu's scream in the anime was powerful to destroy the universe with a chain reaction. Vegito was strong enough to stop it by breaking through his ki shield with his fist. TTGL is much larger then anyone in DBZ, so TTGL would be like "Opps, my bad" on the whole DBZ universe.

Wrong, He was going to destroy the Multiverse Via chain reaction, Since his ki was spreading outside of space and destroying the dimensional walls which caused alternate dimension or known as Multiverses to rush through.

There's a huge difference between dimensions and universes. Stuff like The Room of Spirit and Time, Other World and Dead Zone are not universes. Nothing states that they are universes and dimensions are usually smaller than a universe. Buu destroying a multiverse is just a fan wank garbage. Anime Buuhan can destroy a universe with a chain reaction. Besides, I doubt he can tank a full on attack that can blow up a galaxy or higher.

I'm not denying Vegetto would lose but his destructive capabilities are in the same lane as Tengen Toppa's to where I believe if they were the same height, whether it be Vegetto growing larger or TTGL down sizing Vegetto's chances of winning increases drastically.

Size is not everything. You can make Mike Tyson the same size as Godzilla and Godzilla would still win for having better powers and abilities. Same goes with Vegito against TTGL. TTGL is smaller or Vegito is bigger, TTGL wins for having more raw power and a better durability.

[RandomGuy96]

. Anime Buuhan can destroy a universe with a chain reaction.

And even that's embellishing it a little. The DBU is only four galaxies- being able to destroy that much, even with a chain reaction, is certainly impressive, but it does not compare to anyone who can bust something like our universe, which contains hundreds of billions of galaxies at least.

[Hellspawn28]

Slayers also have powerful characters too like Lord of Nightmares since she created the four universes in Slayers from what I can remember. Complete Arceus from the Pokemon movies could beat Vegito as well.

[goku the krump dancer]

I'm not denying Vegetto would lose but his destructive capabilities are in the same lane as Tengen Toppa's to where I believe if they were the same height, whether it be Vegetto growing larger or TTGL down sizing Vegetto's chances of winning increases drastically.

Size is not everything.

Size isn't everything, all the time.. But Its been shown that size does affect a Z fighters blast force and radius.

Boo had been shown to be penetrated by regular ol' bullets, yet SSJ Goku who could create blasts much more deadly than ANY type of bullet could barely put a dent in Boo's head because they were so tiny inside of him.. Thus Goku's blast was not only itty bitty but it didnt have any impact either, Boo said it felt like a small pinch or being bitten by a flea. And of corse bullets are much bigger than fleas.

[Rocketman]

Rocketman, there is a thing i wonder about. Does Wicked Avatar copy special abilities? Or merely stats? Because it wouldnt do it much good if it, for example, copied say Dio from JoJo Bizarre Adventure, and gained his speed and strength... without The World. For an example that would be better understood in this board, say it copies Ginew. Does it get access to the body swap power?

Avatar doesn't copy abilities, but it does copy strength increases. If, say, Goku used the Kaioken, the Avatar wouldn't copy the Kaioken itself, but it would instantly readjust to be stronger than Kaioken-Goku. Avatar would not copy Ginyu's body swap power.

[mmg86]

Rocketman, there is a thing i wonder about. Does Wicked Avatar copy special abilities? Or merely stats? Because it wouldnt do it much good if it, for example, copied say Dio from JoJo Bizarre Adventure, and gained his speed and strength... without The World. For an example that would be better understood in this board, say it copies Ginew. Does it get access to the body swap power?

Avatar doesn't copy abilities, but it does copy strength increases. If, say, Goku used the Kaioken, the Avatar wouldn't copy the Kaioken itself, but it would instantly readjust to be stronger than Kaioken-Goku. Avatar would not copy Ginyu's body swap power.

So, the only thing it copies is stats, it doesnt develop new abilities. Depending on if it has by default flight (seeing how it looks like an orb of darkness, i bet it always floats) and energy blasts, then it might be able to beat Vegetto, yet it could lose to weaker characters who use exotic abilities, such as Ginew and his Body Change (assuming that the darkness counts as a body, hahaha)

Mmm, reminds me of something in JoJo Bizarre Adventure Part 5. An automatic Stand known as Notorious B.I.G., who attacked the fastest moving things around it. The page explaining it listed its speed as "infinite", hinting at it not having a speed of its own, but rather than it moves faster than whatever its current target is, ensuring that you cant escape by outrunning it... unless something else starts moving faster than you, thus becoming the new target.

http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Notorious_B.I.G.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I'm not denying Vegetto would lose but his destructive capabilities are in the same lane as Tengen Toppa's to where I believe if they were the same height, whether it be Vegetto growing larger or TTGL down sizing Vegetto's chances of winning increases drastically.

And if my Aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

Let's look at the facts here: The Anti-Spiral trapped the Dai-Gurren dan in a labyrinth of infinite universes even before they formed TTGL and they broke out of it, then formed TTGL which was even stronger.

Even the much weaker CGGL can attack at every point in space and time simultaneously, meaning its missiles can go back in time and kill Goku and Vegeta both before they fused, then go back and kill the planet Vegeta before either of them were even born.

And against the Anti-Spiral they had a 100% probability of losing but their Spiral Power could alter probability and give them the ability to win, so any advantage Vegeto could have that would increase his chances of winning would be nullified, even if it gave him a 100% chance to win, he would still lose.

Face it, Vegeto and anyone else from DB/Z/GT is so totally outclassed here it's not even funny.

[goku the krump dancer]

Altering someone's size is different from completely rewriting someones genetic make up...

But anyways I addressed before that any time hopping attacks that Gurren Lagan may have are useless because Dragon Ball and TTGL follow different laws of time travel. In the DB world, killing a past Goku or a future Goku is not going to affect the Goku thats standing in front of you.

And as for this probability thing, what basis would TTGL have to go off in order to make these guesses? What ever the case may be this probability alter power maybe TTGL's only chances of winning if fighting a Vegetto of similar height. I doubt altering the outcome to his favor grants him some enormous power boost though I could be wrong. If he manages to alter the outcome of the battle it could be a situation where Vegetto runs out of power at the last minute or something, otherwise what could possibly challenge him if he could just say "Nope, I'm stronger now?"

[Rocketman]

So, the only thing it copies is stats, it doesnt develop new abilities. Depending on if it has by default flight (seeing how it looks like an orb of darkness, i bet it always floats) and energy blasts, then it might be able to beat Vegetto, yet it could lose to weaker characters who use exotic abilities, such as Ginew and his Body Change (assuming that the darkness counts as a body, hahaha)

Well then you come to the fact that Avatar is a Supreme God. Traps, Monster Effects and the vast majority of Spells don't work on it (and the spells that do fiddle with game mechanics or wear off after one turn), even Obelisk and Slifer's effects are powerless.

[SaiyanZ]

Kami Tenchi, Super Tenga Toppan Gurren Lagann, Kumagawa and other Medaka Box characters are some people that are stronger than Vegetto. Vegetto isn't even the strongest character in his universe/series

[Polyphase Avatron]

Altering someone's size is different from completely rewriting someones genetic make up...

But anyways I addressed before that any time hopping attacks that Gurren Lagan may have are useless because Dragon Ball and TTGL follow different laws of time travel. In the DB world, killing a past Goku or a future Goku is not going to affect the Goku thats standing in front of you.

Nope. That's explicitly the way TTGL time travel works, they can alter the past. Just because Bulma's time machine could only affect an alternate timeline doesn't mean nothing else in fiction can. Besides, TTGL creates Super Spiral Space within itself, where they can dictate their own laws of physics, so if they want to be able to change the past, they can.

And as for this probability thing, what basis would TTGL have to go off in order to make these guesses?

They weren't guesses, they scanned the probability field and found that the Anti-Spiral had a 100% chance of victory, so they altered probability so they could win.

What ever the case may be this probability alter power maybe TTGL's only chances of winning if fighting a Vegetto of similar height. I doubt altering the outcome to his favor grants him some enormous power boost though I could be wrong. If he manages to alter the outcome of the battle it could be a situation where Vegetto runs out of power at the last minute or something, otherwise what could possibly challenge him if he could just say "Nope, I'm stronger now?"

"Nope, I'm stronger now" is exactly what TTGL is about. Throughout the entire series, and even in the final fight, their Spiral Power was constantly evolving to overcome any obstacle put in their way. It doesn't matter how many fan-made advantages you try to give Vegeto, you can make his height a billion times more than TTGL even, they will just form Super TTGL and Giga Drill Break him into oblivion.

[dario03]

That is huge...I also don't like Mecha Anime....but I love Megas XLR...only giant robot show I love.

I honestly believe that Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann may be the largest thing in fiction. I just dont see anything coming even remotely close to it besides the Super Anti Spiral.

Well, from the things i always hear about it, Demonbane is sooo big the universe pops like a bubble as it outgrows it. And in DC, you have the Thought Robot, also known as Cosmic Armor Superman. So large that in comparison, a universe is only a bit bigger than a basketball compared to it.

Rocketman, there is a thing i wonder about. Does Wicked Avatar copy special abilities? Or merely stats? Because it wouldnt do it much good if it, for example, copied say Dio from JoJo Bizarre Adventure, and gained his speed and strength... without The World. For an example that would be better understood in this board, say it copies Ginew. Does it get access to the body swap power?

Wasn't everybody from the Monitor world bigger than a universe? Wasn't the whole DC multiverse supposed to just be a growth on the original monitor or something like that?

And theres also Pre Retcon Beyonder. He didn't really have a form but "he was literally everything, and was like God before there was Genesis", "He is everything, and everything is him.". Basically he was everything that existed outside of the Marvel Multiverse. He was his own multiverse with infinite dimensions and the Marvel multiverse was described as like a drop of water in a Ocean compared to the beyond realm (The Beyonder). Which is weird since I'm pretty sure that back then the Marvel multiverse was made up of a infinite amount of universes that were infinite in size.

And Galactus was as big as a galaxy once. Was a alternate universe and I think he ends up destroying everything.

[Friezacooler]

vegito beats every other fiction character compined, except if he is in Buu's belly were the fusion doesn't work.

[Polyphase Avatron]

vegito beats every other fiction character compined, except if he is in Buu's belly were the fusion doesn't work.