The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
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The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
The Cell saga was by far the worst saga in DBZ. But, what would you consider the first half of Dragon Ball's worst arc?
I'd have to go with the Red Ribbon arc, but only because it dragged on for too long. It's still well-written, unlike Cell, but I don't think it needed to be as long as it was.
I'd have to go with the Red Ribbon arc, but only because it dragged on for too long. It's still well-written, unlike Cell, but I don't think it needed to be as long as it was.
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We f*cking get it! We get that you don't like the Cell arc! Give it a godamn rest!
Pilaf Arc was the worst of Dragon Ball IMO.
Pilaf Arc was the worst of Dragon Ball IMO.
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Re: The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
YOU THINK the Cell saga was by far the worst saga in DBZ.thatdbzguy wrote:The Cell saga was by far the worst saga in DBZ.
And don't start talking about how your opinion is right because "the majority of people think the same".
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Re: The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
Well, for me that "one" arc in DBZ is the Buu arc, but whatever.
The "Dragon Ball" part of the story, covering the first 194 chapters, didn't really have a poor arc for me. I enjoy every arc in the whole story, including the Cell and Buu arcs, and also the Garlic Jr and various GT arcs. With those earlier arcs though, I think every one of them is brilliant and well written.
Say, have you watched Dragon Ball Dissection at all?
The "Dragon Ball" part of the story, covering the first 194 chapters, didn't really have a poor arc for me. I enjoy every arc in the whole story, including the Cell and Buu arcs, and also the Garlic Jr and various GT arcs. With those earlier arcs though, I think every one of them is brilliant and well written.
Say, have you watched Dragon Ball Dissection at all?
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Tough choice...I will go with Pilaf arc.It was ''less better'' than other arcs.
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What is this...The fourth or fifth arc in regards to the Cell Saga? why you hate it, and why you hate the series?
Just stop. It's getting really goddamn old. WE GET IT.
I personally love the Android/Cell Saga, along with the rest of DB/DBZ. I don't think any DB was bad, I think all of it was brilliant, well-written,and the pacing was fine in the RRA Saga in my opinion. Also I don't understand all the Pilaf hate. He was good for the first villain, if you could even call him, Mai and Shu villians, but that's what makes them funny and good characters: their silliness and incomptence.
But do you see me, no, do you see anyone else posting topic after topic simply hating on the series and/or a certain arc and how Gohan is the "worst character ever written." No.
Please just do us all a favor and stop with the hate topics.
Just stop. It's getting really goddamn old. WE GET IT.
I personally love the Android/Cell Saga, along with the rest of DB/DBZ. I don't think any DB was bad, I think all of it was brilliant, well-written,and the pacing was fine in the RRA Saga in my opinion. Also I don't understand all the Pilaf hate. He was good for the first villain, if you could even call him, Mai and Shu villians, but that's what makes them funny and good characters: their silliness and incomptence.
But do you see me, no, do you see anyone else posting topic after topic simply hating on the series and/or a certain arc and how Gohan is the "worst character ever written." No.
Please just do us all a favor and stop with the hate topics.
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I hated everything Pilaf. Everything Pilaf was a pain. I despised all Pilaf related episodes/chapters. I did not like him, nor his cohorts. I dislike Pilaf's goals and his appearance. His personality is about as obnoxious as a rotating door made of scythes with the opportunity for FUNimation to release more Dragon Boxes beyond it. I wanted to strangle the blue bastard each time I saw him.
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Re: The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
Why sign up to a DBZ forum to do nothing but hate on the series? I think every post I've seen you make has been negative. You must be just trolling...
& yes I agree the Pilaf arc is the worst in Dragonball. Because each arc after that improves on it. I still enjoyed it though...
& yes I agree the Pilaf arc is the worst in Dragonball. Because each arc after that improves on it. I still enjoyed it though...
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Folks, enough with the childish and uncalled for "stop trolling" and "stop hating" comments. Enough is enough? Yes. Enough is enough from the rest of you.
Everyone who registers here is free to explain themselves, their thoughts on the series, ask questions about the series, and solicit input from their fellow fans, so long as it's done in a polite way. I don't see a single problem with this particular thread's original post. If you have something to say, by all means, contribute.
If you don't have anything to say, you don't have anything to say.
Everyone who registers here is free to explain themselves, their thoughts on the series, ask questions about the series, and solicit input from their fellow fans, so long as it's done in a polite way. I don't see a single problem with this particular thread's original post. If you have something to say, by all means, contribute.
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Re: The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
I never much cared for the Pilaf arc. It's important for establishing characters, but it was pretty unamusing/boring for me until Goku starts training with Kame'sennin. Then the story is suddenly the best thing ever.
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Re: The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
The Fortuneteller Baba arc. It's not that I don't like it, I just don't like it as much as the other arcs.
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No fucking way!MysticVegeta wrote:Pilaf Arc was the worst of Dragon Ball IMO.
the "Search of Dragon Ball" arc is one of the most enjoyable things i've ever watch. the comedy, the adventure feels. we get to see Goku's innocence and cuteness, and how he met everyone like Bulma, Oolong, Yamcha and Puaaro. it's totally enjoyable.
and as for the topic, RRA is the worst saga in the whole DB series. so ..
plus, what the hell is wrong with the topic title ? "the cell saga" suppose to mean the worst saga ? well, not everyone is a Cell saga hater >_>
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RRA? Worst arc in the whole series? Dude, you forgot Super 17.
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Re: The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
i don't care about GT. i don't even consider it a part of the series, usually when i say the "whole series" i mean the canon one.MysticVegeta wrote:RRA? Worst arc in the whole series? Dude, you forgot Super 17.
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I'd have to go with the RRA arc. It isn't bad by any stretch (infact I think it has Dragonball at it's adventuring best) but it moves a little too fast paced (manga wise) and doesn't really properly gel together until Tao Pai Pai/ Upa are introduced.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.
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I actually dislike most of the first part of the story, aside from the last two arcs. But if I had to choose one as the worst... probably the Baba arc.
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Cell Saga is not the worst Saga, never!
Cell Saga is the most dark and mysterious saga of all with an amazing main creepy villain!!!
I like it a lot!
Cell Saga is the most dark and mysterious saga of all with an amazing main creepy villain!!!
I like it a lot!
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Pilaf arc is great for setting the basic groundwork and tone of the series. Even more enjoyable to watch with some friends and some beer.
21st Tenkaichi Budokai arc is great as it puts the fighting to the forefront of the narrative for the first time. We see Roshi really come out of his shell and put the smack down on his pupils.
Red Ribbon Army arc works wonderfully at expanding the cast and world in a way the two previous arcs only wished they could. Had all of the adventuring of the first arc and all of the fighting of the second arc rolled into one. Nice varied cast of villains, and we finally get to see Goku's grandpa. Works as a perfect conclusion for the story up to that point.
22nd Tenkaichi Budokai shows us a sort of antithesis to our protagonists in the form of a rival school. Tenshinhan has some great abilities.
Piccolo Daimao is the first time things get particularly dark, and it's a nice change of pace. We see three main cast members get killed off, as well as Shenlong. Really great end fight, and it leads directly into the following arc.
I like the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai as we first see the main cast all grown up. Goku finally wins the Budokai and delivers on his accidental promise made in the very first arc. This, like the RRA arc works as a conclusion for the story up to that point.
All in all, I'm inclined to treat the 22nd TB arc as the low point here, not because it's bad or anything, but just due to how great everything else is in comparison.
21st Tenkaichi Budokai arc is great as it puts the fighting to the forefront of the narrative for the first time. We see Roshi really come out of his shell and put the smack down on his pupils.
Red Ribbon Army arc works wonderfully at expanding the cast and world in a way the two previous arcs only wished they could. Had all of the adventuring of the first arc and all of the fighting of the second arc rolled into one. Nice varied cast of villains, and we finally get to see Goku's grandpa. Works as a perfect conclusion for the story up to that point.
22nd Tenkaichi Budokai shows us a sort of antithesis to our protagonists in the form of a rival school. Tenshinhan has some great abilities.
Piccolo Daimao is the first time things get particularly dark, and it's a nice change of pace. We see three main cast members get killed off, as well as Shenlong. Really great end fight, and it leads directly into the following arc.
I like the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai as we first see the main cast all grown up. Goku finally wins the Budokai and delivers on his accidental promise made in the very first arc. This, like the RRA arc works as a conclusion for the story up to that point.
All in all, I'm inclined to treat the 22nd TB arc as the low point here, not because it's bad or anything, but just due to how great everything else is in comparison.
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Re: The "Cell saga" of Dragon Ball?
I actually find myself getting the least excited about the Red Ribbon Arc. To a lot of people, it's one of the better ones in the series. To me, though, I've always enjoyed the tournaments and the single powerful martial arts villains the most. So, while there are parts of the arc that I do like (Tao Pai Pai, Goku's final assault on the Red Ribbon Army base, etc.), for the most part I'm just excited to get through it because everything that comes after until the end is just stuff I absolutely love.
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I would also have to agree with the OP that the Red Ribbon arc was the worst arc from the pre-Raditz part of the series because it was a bit too long, but really the entire pre-Raditz portion of the series is excellent in my opinion, so I still see the Red Ribbon arc as better than most of the post-Raditz story.
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