I think it represents power.
Vegeta was a Saiyan royal, and Freeza was an overlord, so they had red, the Ginyu Force, Nappa and Raditz are the puppets, so they had green, and I forgot who had blue.
Does it represent a pecking order?
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Red, Green, Blue. Do they mean anything?
I think it represents power.
Vegeta was a Saiyan royal, and Freeza was an overlord, so they had red, the Ginyu Force, Nappa and Raditz are the puppets, so they had green, and I forgot who had blue.
Does it represent a pecking order?
I think it represents power.
Vegeta was a Saiyan royal, and Freeza was an overlord, so they had red, the Ginyu Force, Nappa and Raditz are the puppets, so they had green, and I forgot who had blue.
Does it represent a pecking order?
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Well,Sui had red scouter and he wasn't powerful 
.Tarble and Zarbon had blue scouters if i remember right.It makes sense for me.
.Tarble and Zarbon had blue scouters if i remember right.It makes sense for me.
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Maybe its just newer versions, maybe they fixed that glitch that makes it fricking explode all over your face
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I wouldn't include Tarble or Turles since they both only have Non-Canon appearances.
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The JSAT Special is based on a premise by Toriyama, and Tarble is mentioned in Battle of Gods - something that has been referred to as 'an official continuation' of the Manga storyline.MysticVegeta wrote:I wouldn't include Tarble or Tullece since they both only have Non-Canon appearances.
But yeah, I think this is the second time I've answered one of your threads with this today: there is no canon.
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I don't know if this matters to you, but every single one of them are green in the full color manga.
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I don't think the color of the scouter is supposed to mean anything. It's just a simple design choice by either Toriyama or Toei as to which ever one fits best.
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Really? All this time I wanted a Green one, but I bought a Red one to look powerful
No canon? Huh! This guy's funny!
No canon? Huh! This guy's funny!
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It's true though. There's no official statement from Toei or Akira Toriyama addressing the subject of "canon", so any claims made to it are purely fan-invented and hold about as much water as such. Do we all know the manga is canon? Sure, that's easy. Any steps taken from there get tricky as hell.MysticVegeta wrote:Really? All this time I wanted a Green one, but I bought a Red one to look powerful
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No, the manga is the original work, but without an officially defined canon, no one has to agree. As of right now, nothing is canon. All we have are blanket statements about what works generally belong in one of the various continuities.Duo wrote:It's true though. There's no official statement from Toei or Akira Toriyama addressing the subject of "canon", so any claims made to it are purely fan-invented and hold about as much water as such. Do we all know the manga is canon? Sure, that's easy. Any steps taken from there get tricky as hell.MysticVegeta wrote:No canon? Huh! This guy's funny!
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I realize that, but who doesn't consider the manga to be canon?
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Canon: The work of Akira Toriyama, the story of Toriyama, or something Toriyama had a lot of involvement in.
Non-Canon: Not the work, or story of Toriyama.
Manga = Canon.
Anime (Minus Filler) = Canon.
Battle of Gods = Canon.
Dragon Ball GT = Non-Canon.
Movies = Non-Canon.
Thought this was common knowledge?
Non-Canon: Not the work, or story of Toriyama.
Manga = Canon.
Anime (Minus Filler) = Canon.
Battle of Gods = Canon.
Dragon Ball GT = Non-Canon.
Movies = Non-Canon.
Thought this was common knowledge?
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About canon, what we know from official sources is that the movies (minus BoG) & Neko Majin take place in parallel worlds. Also, the manga guidebook Chozenshuu 1 covers the Kanzenban manga, Neko Majin, the Abale-chan one-shot, BoG (which mentions JSAT), and EoB (implying that they all, but Neko Majin, take place in the same world maybe?), and the anime timeline covers the DB/Z/GT anime (including fillers & TV Specials), plus M1, M5, the JSAT Special, EoB, and BoG. DBO also follows exclusively the manga, ignoring the anime.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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There are people out there who dislike the manga and will only watch the anime. Though I don't agree with them, of course, I'm still kinda friends with a couple of people from the early days of Dragon Ball on Toonami. They are still very into Dragon Ball, but to them, the English dub is the only thing that matters in debates. They don't care about the original Japanese version of the anime or the manga in the least.Duo wrote:I realize that, but who doesn't consider the manga to be canon?
It might be commonly accepted, but it's by no means official and no one is required to agree with it.MysticVegeta wrote:Canon: The work of Akira Toriyama, the story of Toriyama, or something Toriyama had a lot of involvement in.
Thought this was common knowledge?
Those are all continuities...DBZGTKOSDH wrote:About canon, what we know from official sources is that the movies (minus BoG) & Neko Majin take place in parallel worlds. Also, the manga guidebook Chozenshuu 1 covers the Kanzenban manga, Neko Majin, the Abale-chan one-shot, BoG (which mentions JSAT), and EoB (implying that they all, but Neko Majin, take place in the same world maybe?), and the anime timeline covers the DB/Z/GT anime (including fillers & TV Specials), plus M1, M5, the JSAT Special, EoB, and BoG. DBO also follows exclusively the manga, ignoring the anime.
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What I mean, mostly so, is that anybody who's a fan of the series would likely not be exposed to a panel/page in the manga and say "That clearly doesn't fit with the story!". Translation of dialogue is something I didn't really consider with that statement.
Also, thanks for dropping the word "continuity". That fits much better to describe this discussion given that canon is a biblical reference.
Also, thanks for dropping the word "continuity". That fits much better to describe this discussion given that canon is a biblical reference.
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The words: 'that's rich' come to mind.MysticVegeta wrote:This guy's funny!
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bit off topic, but I go the Star Wars route. To me, everything;'s canon. Anime filler? Happened. DBZ Movie 7? Happened, somehow. DB Movie 4? Now that one's hard... must be a dream or something, but the dream happened. Dragonball GT? Happened. You just have to tweak your interpretation so it all fits together.
f course, back to the Star Wars example, you would have levels of canon. the Manga would be top level, followed by the anime that doesn't directly contridict the manga(no, being out of character or acting stupid doesn't contridict anything). So, for example, Freeza killed Kargot, but Vegita came back to life in time to see Goku and Freeza fighting before being wished to Earth. Then would be the specials and movies and OVA's and such, the parts that didn't directly contridict the anime. So, in Movie 6, Dende clearly isn't really God yet. Gohan's hair is different in Movie 5, but there's no reason it couldn't have been cut and regrown. etc.
Now, back on topic; doesn't Nappa wear a Blue scouter at one point? Also, a similiar topic that never seems to come up is the color of the battle jackets and their accessories. Does the white armor work better than the brown? Are the blue undersuits of higher rank than the black ones? Are the singlets different in any respect to the full bodysuits or the trunks? Perhaps it's an asthetic choice, and, for example, Vegita just likes Blue and Freeza likes purple. Perhaps the scouters are that way too. Just pick your favorite color, and there's no real difference in the colors.
f course, back to the Star Wars example, you would have levels of canon. the Manga would be top level, followed by the anime that doesn't directly contridict the manga(no, being out of character or acting stupid doesn't contridict anything). So, for example, Freeza killed Kargot, but Vegita came back to life in time to see Goku and Freeza fighting before being wished to Earth. Then would be the specials and movies and OVA's and such, the parts that didn't directly contridict the anime. So, in Movie 6, Dende clearly isn't really God yet. Gohan's hair is different in Movie 5, but there's no reason it couldn't have been cut and regrown. etc.
Now, back on topic; doesn't Nappa wear a Blue scouter at one point? Also, a similiar topic that never seems to come up is the color of the battle jackets and their accessories. Does the white armor work better than the brown? Are the blue undersuits of higher rank than the black ones? Are the singlets different in any respect to the full bodysuits or the trunks? Perhaps it's an asthetic choice, and, for example, Vegita just likes Blue and Freeza likes purple. Perhaps the scouters are that way too. Just pick your favorite color, and there's no real difference in the colors.
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This is my theory with the Scouter Colors. Again, just a theory and nothing more.
Green Scouters are used by low-ranking grunts, and people up to and including "left hand men." (Raditz, Dodoria, various lower class Saiyans) The Ginyu Force members use green, but this may be because they are a mercenary team of sorts and not officially in the Frieza organization.
Blue Scouters are usually reserved for "right hand men" and "second in command" types. (Zarbon, Nappa, etc.)
Red scouters are for the elite/leaders/etc. (Frieza, Vegeta, etc.)
Like the other poster, I don't count characters like Tarble as their appearances are not canon.
Green Scouters are used by low-ranking grunts, and people up to and including "left hand men." (Raditz, Dodoria, various lower class Saiyans) The Ginyu Force members use green, but this may be because they are a mercenary team of sorts and not officially in the Frieza organization.
Blue Scouters are usually reserved for "right hand men" and "second in command" types. (Zarbon, Nappa, etc.)
Red scouters are for the elite/leaders/etc. (Frieza, Vegeta, etc.)
Like the other poster, I don't count characters like Tarble as their appearances are not canon.
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The problem with this is that Vegeta was just a grunt, on the same level as Kui (who also wore a red scouter, I think?).TTC817 wrote:This is my theory with the Scouter Colors. Again, just a theory and nothing more.
Green Scouters are used by low-ranking grunts, and people up to and including "left hand men." (Raditz, Dodoria, various lower class Saiyans) The Ginyu Force members use green, but this may be because they are a mercenary team of sorts and not officially in the Freeza organization.
Blue Scouters are usually reserved for "right hand men" and "second in command" types. (Zarbon, Nappa, etc.)
Red scouters are for the elite/leaders/etc. (Freeza, Vegeta, etc.)
Like the other poster, I don't count characters like Tarble as their appearances are not canon.
Personally, I just go with them wearing whatever color they happened to grab first.
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That's incorrect. Cui wears a green scouter.Kamiccolo9 wrote: The problem with this is that Vegeta was just a grunt, on the same level as Kui (who also wore a red scouter, I think?).
Personally, I just go with them wearing whatever color they happened to grab first.
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