Characters who got too much glory

[MediaFanGirl93]

While I do agree that fans tend to pretty much let Bulma off easier for things than they normally let other characters but calling her among the most overrated seems pretty far-fetched (maybe as far as female characters are concerned). Definitely agree with Vegeta being among the most overrated characters.

Also, the only time Vegeta actually made things worse for the team in the Cell Saga is when Vegeta chose to fight #18 by himself rather than waiting for Goku and letting Cell become Perfect (the latter being just as much Kuririn's fault).

I do believe Bulma is overrated, because I see many fans complain about it on a lot of websites (such as Tumblr and Deviantart). I wasn't just saying that. Yeah, Vegeta is very overrated, but I think Teen Gohan gets too much credit and glory amongst the fandom (he does get a fair amount in the series).

I understand. Both Vegeta and Krillin share some blame, but the only reason why Krillin gets criticized less is because Krillin showed some remorse for his actions and at least tried to fix his mistakes. No offense if you like Vegeta.

[Sylveon]

I hate it when people try to sugarcoat over Bulma's bad qualities because I actually like her BECAUSE of them. Unlike most of the female characters in the cast (who I feel are all fairly one-note and generic), she is a legitimately well-rounded character with good and bad qualities who plays a large role in the story and has a significant amount of character development(in the manga at least. In the anime(especially the dub, where her intellect and serious side is toned down to make her a generic valleygirl), she's a total asshole the whole way through). I'm getting a little tired of the slut-shaming, though.

Vegeta's creepy fangirls who have huge crushes on him terrify me, though. He might be "hot" and he might love his family, but he's still an unrepentant mass-murderer.

EDIT: Actually, I'm a little bit lost at how she is overrated though. Whenever she's brought up on most forums I go to, it's almost always negatively, most of the time unfairly IMO. Hell, the way this fandom talks about her you'd think that she was a mass-murderer herself.

[Gaffer Tape]

Also, the only time Vegeta actually made things worse for the team in the Cell Saga is when Vegeta chose to fight #18 by himself rather than waiting for Goku and letting Cell become Perfect (the latter being just as much Kuririn's fault).

I've never understood how it's as much Kuririn's fault. At that point, the plan didn't necessitate #18 being shut down or destroyed. While she should have been less of an idiot and escaped, at that moment, she was getting along fine just hiding. And she only needed to stay hidden until Trunks or Vegeta killed Cell, which should have been a foregone conclusion at that point. Honestly, Kuririn's role was totally superfluous. He didn't even need to be there. He didn't need to do anything. And since he didn't need to, him not doing anything doesn't make things any worse. Vegeta passively letting Cell search for her does make a difference. Vegeta ACTIVELY keeping Trunks from stopping Cell does make a difference. Kuririn destroying the remote? No difference. Kuririn's motives and intelligence aside, the only thing he's guilty of is not anticipating that Vegeta would do something incredibly dangerous and self-serving rather than sticking with the oh-so-simple plan.

[ABED]

Goku.
He get so many (and unnecesary) glory especially in Freeza's arc, because he did the same of Piccolo Daimao's arc and of course Saiyajin's arc: For some reason he couldn't be at the start of important battles, so after all his partners had been defeated, he arrived as the hero....

Maybe he gets too much, but Goku's the main character. In the Daimao arc is different. He is there for the important battles. In the beginning he chases after Kuririn's murderer (before he knows there's a ring leader), faces the big bad and loses, gets a power up and then heads after the villain. A great argument can be made to give the other characters more to do, but Goku is the main character.

[RandomGuy96]

Goku.
He get so many (and unnecesary) glory especially in Freeza's arc, because he did the same of Piccolo Daimao's arc and of course Saiyajin's arc: For some reason he couldn't be at the start of important battles, so after all his partners had been defeated, he arrived as the hero....

Maybe he gets too much, but Goku's the main character. In the Daimao arc is different. He is there for the important battles. In the beginning he chases after Kuririn's murderer (before he knows there's a ring leader), faces the big bad and loses, gets a power up and then heads after the villain. A great argument can be made to give the other characters more to do, but Goku is the main character.

Him being the main character is qutie arguable, which is why I don't like when people keep trying to use that as a justification. He's barley in most of the post-Raditz series, and in the end him being sloppily rewritten as the main character really dragged the series down.

[Kid Buu]

I'm not sure how I''d make the other characters useful in the Daimao arc. The only other possible option would be having Tien beat Drum and lose to Piccolo but that's it..

[Retan]

I think Bulma is the most overated character, and Vegeta should get his own series

But seriously Vegeta is the most useful character in the series, except for beating the main villian of course.

I can even imagine Toriyama saying, "crap how am I going to get these villians to be strong enough to be feared, without making goku or one of the good guys look aweful stupid or evil themselves, oh wait Vegeta!!!"

[ABED]

Him being the main character is qutie arguable, which is why I don't like when people keep trying to use that as a justification.

Even if he's not, he's not "barely" in the show, and he's the most important character. I know people like the poetry of Gohan taking his role but at no point is he ready for it.

I'm not sure how I''d make the other characters useful in the Daimao arc. The only other possible option would be having Tenshinhan beat Drum and lose to Piccolo but that's it.

I've thought the same thing

[shinmaru]

Thats easy Son Gokuda especially in GT.

[dbzfan7]

Goku of course..but that is to be expected. People pretty much covered everything I could say. It's also funny when Goku in all actuality is one of the worst so called heroes I have ever seen. But he is still a lovable fool.

[shinmaru]

Goku of course..but that is to be expected. People pretty much covered everything I could say. It's also funny when Goku in all actuality is one of the worst so called heroes I have ever seen. But he is still a lovable fool.

The worst so called hero I have ever seen.Okey thats weird Goku is one of the most peacfull heroes why is he worst and a fool explain.

[dbzfan7]

Goku of course..but that is to be expected. People pretty much covered everything I could say. It's also funny when Goku in all actuality is one of the worst so called heroes I have ever seen. But he is still a lovable fool.

The worst so called heroe I have ever seen.Okey thats weird Goku is one of the most peacfull heroes why is he worst nd a fool explain.

He constantly puts his enjoyment of fights over everything else.

-Letting Vegeta go almost doomed earth as he would have returned before Goku healed. If Freeza didn't know about the Dragon Balls, earth would have been screwed.

-He could have killed Freeza instantly as an SSJ and saved Planet Namek...but nope he drags it out for no reason. He then let's Freeza go and the first thing he does is head to earth after being repaired. If Goku did not luckily learn Shunkan Ido, or Trunks didn't show up, then all his friends would have died before he got back.

-He could have stopped the Cyborg threat before it started by finding Dr. Gero and killing him. But nope. Instead he decides to risk the world's future and fight the Cyborgs that were philosophized to kill all of them. And then 20 kills a bunch of people.

-Should have told Gohan of his plans to have him fight Cell as he knew he was the only one who could win, but instead decides to not tell him...for some reason. This is one of the places where the whole "Piccolo is a better father than Goku" comes from. He knew Gohan better than Goku.

-Could have stopped the entire Boo threat by going SSJ3 and one shotting Vegeta, or by going all out and Killing Fat Boo. Instead he says the living should solve the problem, even though it was him and Vegeta who brought Boo back by fighting each other.

I bet RandomGuy could come up with even more.

[Kid Buu]

Overall I'd let Yamcha beat The Mummy and Tenshinhan beat Drum, also I'd give Tenshinhan a legitimate victory of Goku in the 22nd Budokai. Those are Goku highlights that I'd take away from him.

[RandomGuy96]

Overall I'd let Yamcha beat The Mummy and Tenshinhan beat Drum, also I'd give Tenshinhan a legitimate victory of Goku in the 22nd Budokai. Those are Goku highlights that I'd take away from him.

But if Tenshinhan beat Drum, there'd be no point to Drum's existence.

[Kid Buu]

Well okay. Yamcha beats The Mummy and Tenshinhan beats Goku clean.

[Retan]

Overall I'd let Yamcha beat The Mummy and Tenshinhan beat Drum, also I'd give Tenshinhan a legitimate victory of Goku in the 22nd Budokai. Those are Goku highlights that I'd take away from him.

But if Tenshinhan beat Drum, there'd be no point to Drum's existence.

What was Drum's point anyway?

[RandomGuy96]

Overall I'd let Yamcha beat The Mummy and Tenshinhan beat Drum, also I'd give Tenshinhan a legitimate victory of Goku in the 22nd Budokai. Those are Goku highlights that I'd take away from him.

But if Tenshinhan beat Drum, there'd be no point to Drum's existence.

What was Drum's point anyway?

To show how much stronger Goku got; Ten was evenly matched with him before, yet he gets his ass kicked by Drum, who is then killed with one kick by Goku.

[Nikkolas]

To show that Young Piccolo could spit out things stronger than the things Old Piccolo could spit out.

YOu could easily have Tenshinhan beat Drum and still have it all work. He gets there before Goku remember. So defeating Drum takes up all the time remaining for Goku to arrive. He wins just before Goku turns up in time to save him (Tien) from Piccolo.

And a clean win for Tenshinhan at the 22nd Tournament undermines the big point of DB. Goku COULD have won both the competitions but Roshi having longer legs and a truck happening along cost him a win. He was so agonizingly close both times that it leaves us going "GRAHHH!!!" This makes it all the more rewarding when he finally wins at the 23rd Budokai.

[Kid Buu]

Whaat? Roshi was dominating the entire fight, Goku was the one getting lucky ass-pulls. Goku would have went down for a 10 count if Bulma didn't mention it was dinner time, and Roshi was forced to use up most of his energy stopping Goku's Oozaru transformation. Not to mention Goku was basically stepping out of bounds when he was Oozaru anyway, and I'm sure after Oozaru Goku went down he was down for more than 10 seconds.

[MDSTSSJ]

Him being the main character is qutie arguable, which is why I don't like when people keep trying to use that as a justification. He's barley in most of the post-Raditz series, and in the end him being sloppily rewritten as the main character really dragged the series down.

Dragged the series down? You got to be kidding me!

Yes, Goku got to much glory time to time but without him, DB would be a failure!

Regardless, I'm aware that give more prominence to others, perhaps would have been a plus for the series!!!