The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kaboom]

Another fight:
Piccolo (Cell Games) w/o weights vs. SSJ Goten (Pre-ROSAT)

I'd say both Goten and Trunks are pretty close to Piccolo in power, but he's got a HUGE advantage in skill and ability. He could stomp either of them one-or-one.

[Kid Buu]

How strong is Cyborg Tao compared to other 23rd Budokai fighters? I re-read the arc and Tenshinhan beats Tao rather easily, although it seemed either Yamcha or Kuririn showed concern over him.

[dbgtFO]

How strong is Cyborg Tao compared to other 23rd Budokai fighters? I re-read the arc and Tenshinhan beats Tao rather easily, although it seemed either Yamcha or Kuririn showed concern over him.

According to that Weekly Jump scan his battle power was 210, surpassing both Yamcha and Krillin.

In the manga itself nothing concrete is ever stated and at one point Yamcha and Krillin were getting ready to help Tenshinhan beat Tao.

[RandomGuy96]

I don't see a problem with his 210 power level, and so just roll with it for now. Exact same level I use Drum, amusingly enough. Ten's 250 is a different story, though.

[Nikkolas]

Is there anyone who be a good match for Turles after the fruit? He was dominating Kaio-ken x 10 Goku so that puts him at around 300,000? The only person close to him is Vegeta during his struggle with base Freeza but he's still substantially weaker.

[RandomGuy96]

Is there anyone who be a good match for Tullece after the fruit? He was dominating Kaio-ken x 10 Goku so that puts him at around 300,000? The only person close to him is Vegeta during his struggle with base Freeza but he's still substantially weaker.

Base Freeza would technically be 4th form Freeza.

Anyway, he's only below 300,000 according to V-Jump, which really seems to contradict what Freeza says right after. I think post-fruit Tullece and post zenkai Vegeta are more or less equal. Either could put up a decent fight but lose against 1st form Freeza, but are more than enough to stomp a power of 300,000.

[TheGmGoken]

Is there anyone who be a good match for Tullece after the fruit? He was dominating Kaio-ken x 10 Goku so that puts him at around 300,000? The only person close to him is Vegeta during his struggle with base Freeza but he's still substantially weaker.

Base Freeza would technically be 4th form Freeza.

Anyway, he's only below 300,000 according to V-Jump, which really seems to contradict what Freeza says right after. I think post-fruit Tullece and post zenkai Vegeta are more or less equal. Either could put up a decent fight but lose against 1st form Freeza, but are more than enough to stomp a power of 300,000.

Could't Cooler's men also put up a fight? I mean if they all attacked at once(For some reason it works for villains but not Heroes).

[RandomGuy96]

What the-

[RandomGuy96]

Considering that Salza stomped Gohan easily, and they were confident in taking on the guy who killed Freeza, they're more likely far, faaaaaar beyond the power of his 1st form.

[Nikkolas]

Base Freeza would technically be 4th form Freeza.

How do you figure? Shouldn't his base be before he powers up at all?

[Kamiccolo9]

Base Freeza would technically be 4th form Freeza.

How do you figure? Shouldn't his base be before he powers up at all?

Freeza's transformations are different from the other characters. His final form is his true, "base" form, while the others are kind of like "shells" he has made for himself to restrain his power.

[TheGmGoken]

Considering that Salza stomped Gohan easily, and they were confident in taking on the guy who killed Freeza, they're more likely far, faaaaaar beyond the power of his 1st form.

That or they're close to Freeza's 530,000 power(Maybe Freeza died in his 530k form according to them. But that's nitpicking). But I agree that should able to rival ONE of Freeza's form. So Turles ate a second fruit after beating the shit out of Goku and his friends. So how would that change the battle?

[RandomGuy96]

Base Freeza would technically be 4th form Freeza.

How do you figure? Shouldn't his base be before he powers up at all?

Freeza's transformations are different from the other characters. His final form is his true, "base" form, while the others are kind of like "shells" he has made for himself to restrain his power.

Yeah, that. His base form is the one he was born into, and what everything else is based around. From there, he can either power down to his three shells, or increase his power by bulking up.

Considering that Salza stomped Gohan easily, and they were confident in taking on the guy who killed Freeza, they're more likely far, faaaaaar beyond the power of his 1st form.

That or they're close to Freeza's 530,000 power(Maybe Freeza died in his 530k form according to them. But that's nitpicking). But I agree that should able to rival ONE of Freeza's form. So Tullece ate a second fruit after beating the shit out of Goku and his friends. So how would that change the battle?

Battle with who? Salza?

I think Gohan was over one million without rage anyway. So Salza stomping him is evidence to me that he can stomp Tullece just as easily even if he eats three fruit.

[Kid Buu]

Assuming the humans have the same power level as they did in the Ginyu force filler.

Tenshinhan/Yamcha/Chaotzu Vs Ginyu Force, this time ith Ginyu there too.

[RandomGuy96]

Assuming the humans have the same power level as they did in the Ginyu force filler.

Tenshinhan/Yamcha/Chaotzu Vs Ginyu Force, this time ith Ginyu there too.

Ten was around 100K or so given that his multi form clones took down the Ginyus individually. He'd give the Cap'n some trouble. Everyone else is fodder. Ginyu takes it if he can avoid the Kikoho.

[Mystic Buu]

Appule vs Raditz.

[flashback0180]

Appule vs Raditz.

Raditz in Ape form is stronger than base Nappa so i'll say Raditz.


Besides does he even fight , most of Freezas henchman in the ship are in 500 - 1000 of power lv , they even need weapons(laser guns)...

[hleV]

They're actually ki guns that presumably allow for ki blast type of attacks for those who are normally incapable of doing that on their own.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

They're actually ki guns that presumably allow for ki blast type of attacks for those who are normally incapable of doing that on their own.

More specifically:

Beam Gun
Explanation
Equipment used by Freeza and his men, mainly by low-level warriors with low ki power. They amplifie and fire ki, and can also be used to fly. One was used to destroy Gohan and co.'s spaceship.
Characteristics
They're connected to scouters, and fire a beam suitable for the opponent's battle power. (Daizenshuu 4, p.156)

But Appule didn't have one of those.

[ZombieVito]

I have Appule slightly stronger, so he wins.

I have him at 1600.