Is a new series inevitable?

Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
User avatar
Hellspawn28
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 15699
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:16 am

TheGmGoken wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:It won't make sense for Heroes to exist in the same world as the DBZ characters. How did people on Earth were able to make cards and a video game based on the adventures on the Z fighters when pretty much no one knew about their adventures. In the anime, the general public knew about Piccolo Diamo, Nappa & Vegeta, Cell, Majin Buu and maybe the Shadow Dragons. Everyone else like Freeza, no one knew about.
The public don't know Boo. Remember the dragon erased their memories of Boo. Makes me wonder how no one recognizes Vegeta.
In the 2008 Jump Special, they had a party of Mr. Satan defeating Buu and that special takes place over a year after Kid Buu was killed. So the wish for the public not remembering Buu was retconned.
She/Her
PS5 username: Guyver_Spawn_27
LB Profile: https://letterboxd.com/Hellspawn28/

User avatar
TheGmGoken
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 10592
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:19 pm
Location: Capsule Corps

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:28 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:It won't make sense for Heroes to exist in the same world as the DBZ characters. How did people on Earth were able to make cards and a video game based on the adventures on the Z fighters when pretty much no one knew about their adventures. In the anime, the general public knew about Piccolo Diamo, Nappa & Vegeta, Cell, Majin Buu and maybe the Shadow Dragons. Everyone else like Freeza, no one knew about.
The public don't know Boo. Remember the dragon erased their memories of Boo. Makes me wonder how no one recognizes Vegeta.
In the 2008 Jump Special, they had a party of Mr. Satan defeating Buu and that special takes place over a year after Kid Buu was killed. So the wish for the public not remembering Buu was retconned.
Then again could be just Fat Boo they forgot and the still remember Super Boo.

User avatar
dprez
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1381
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:52 pm

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by dprez » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:54 am

A new series? No way. New movies/specials, absolutely. Even a Toriyama backed series doesn't seam likely. But future products like Battle of Gods and Yo! The Return of Son Goku and Friends! are practically inevitable. Dragon Ball is the kind of series that can keep going on and on with new movies and specials as long as they are quality releases backed by the original author. It is odd to think the series will continue like that, which is one reason why I think BoG is not one of many, but one of a mere few that could possibly be released in the next couple years.

The series needs to end. All these continuations will cease to be eventually. Nothing short of an epiphany by Mr. Toriyama woud warrant a new series.

User avatar
Tzigi
Regular
Posts: 559
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:36 am
Location: Poland
Contact:

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by Tzigi » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:02 am

I wouldn't say it's inevitable. It's possible at most. And even then I doubt it.

But I'd gladly watch it - especially a Dragon Ball: Heroes anime that would be in the vein of Digimon Tamers. I like this idea - it's as if we played an Augmented Reality game now with Napoleon or any other historical character as our companion. For me that's awesome and such anime would also be great.

User avatar
Mystic Buu
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 360
Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:27 pm

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by Mystic Buu » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:23 am

I would like to see more movies because series would be long and it would take long because of Buu Saga Kai.

User avatar
DBZ Mick
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1130
Joined: Fri May 06, 2011 1:38 am
Location: Australia

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by DBZ Mick » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:39 am

I really think we would have seen something now.

Anyway, I just hope for more movies. The series doesn't need to be stretched into more series.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

Superman in an orange Gi was the bastard son of FUNimation. Its not The real character, it is as false as Chatku.

-DemonRin

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:04 am

The chances are these:
  • A sequel to Dragon Ball Z/Kai/manga (either before GT or ignoring GT)
  • A sequel to Dragon Ball GT (Goku Jr. the main character, highly unlikely)
  • An adaptation of Dragon Ball Heroes (Victory Mission)
  • An adaptation of Dragon Ball Online (yeah, the game is dead, but that doesn't mean they can't recycle the story & character designs, but this happening is unlikely)
Hellspawn28 wrote:It won't make sense for Heroes to exist in the same world as the DBZ characters. How did people on Earth were able to make cards and a video game based on the adventures on the Z fighters when pretty much no one knew about their adventures. In the anime, the general public knew about Piccolo Diamo, Nappa & Vegeta, Cell, Majin Buu and maybe the Shadow Dragons. Everyone else like Freeza, no one knew about.
Since Time-Traveling is involved, I guess they sent through time (Capsule Corp. most likely) something like this to gather information about the fighters' appearance, fighting styles, and personalities.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
samuraix123
I Live Here
Posts: 3815
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:22 pm
Location: Kentucky

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by samuraix123 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:40 am

crisis wrote:Consider this:

Why would Billseerusiris tell Goku that there are 12 other universes, and they're currently living in the 7th? I mean, why would Toriyama even introduce that concept? One would think he might wanna explore that further, perhaps in another movie or 2.

But 12? TWELVE? Each with their own Gods of Destruction/Creation, etc. He even hints that they're way more stronger than him, making Goku and pretty much every other character in the Dragon Ball saga look like ants in comparison. This idea alone can warrant a whole new series.

Who knows what the future has in store for Dragon Ball. It's kind of exciting.
Is this a new way people are spelling this persons name '' Billseerusiris''? :P I can't even say that. :P I understand if you're on a IPAD and it messed it up. :lol:
The Dragonboxes are like a middle aged woman who still looks good through simply taking good care of her skin and body with maybe a tiny bit of makeup while the Orange Bricks are like a middle aged woman who get's 50 tons of botox, makeup and plastic surgery in order to look younger and as a result looks even worse. ~ ringworm128
Still recording Toonami broadcasts on VHS after all these years!
#1 Paikuhan fan!

User avatar
Hellspawn28
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 15699
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:25 pm

I won't mind another Goku Jr. special. I thought Hero's Legacy was pretty good and I enjoy better then GT.
She/Her
PS5 username: Guyver_Spawn_27
LB Profile: https://letterboxd.com/Hellspawn28/

User avatar
FortuneSSJ
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5937
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:07 pm

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:20 pm

I wouldn't mind. Dragon Ball universe is a really big one.
Another race, another world, another universes. Lord Toriyama can create whatever he wants and still fit into the story.
Last edited by FortuneSSJ on Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota

User avatar
samuraix123
I Live Here
Posts: 3815
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:22 pm
Location: Kentucky

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by samuraix123 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:20 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I won't mind another Goku Jr. special. I thought Hero's Legacy was pretty good and I enjoy better then GT.
Yeah....I kinda liked it better. I like some of the characters in it but It's hard for me to watch it. I don't wanna see pan in the hospital dying haha
The Dragonboxes are like a middle aged woman who still looks good through simply taking good care of her skin and body with maybe a tiny bit of makeup while the Orange Bricks are like a middle aged woman who get's 50 tons of botox, makeup and plastic surgery in order to look younger and as a result looks even worse. ~ ringworm128
Still recording Toonami broadcasts on VHS after all these years!
#1 Paikuhan fan!

User avatar
SingleFringe&Sparks
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1642
Joined: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:55 pm
Location: Mt. Paozu/East District

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:07 pm

Introducing a Yugioh/Buddy-Fight/Digimon Tamers style DBZ would feel terribly undermining to the original show. It would come off as too gimmicky and the drastic change to the image of the series would throw the fanbase into a frenzy.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

User avatar
SaiyamanMS
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 975
Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:08 am
Location: Australia
Contact:

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by SaiyamanMS » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:19 pm

I'd be interested to see what they'd be able to do with a complete reboot/remake similar to the '90s version of Dr. Slump.

User avatar
Hellspawn28
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 15699
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:45 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:Introducing a Yugioh/Buddy-Fight/Digimon Tamers style DBZ would feel terribly undermining to the original show. It would come off as too gimmicky and the drastic change to the image of the series would throw the fanbase into a frenzy.
The older fans may hate it, but Toei and Bandai are not going to care. Dragon Ball's main target audience are kids and the age group is likely around 3 - 11. Toei and Bandai views the older fans as a secondary audience, they know older fans watch their shows and buy merchandise but they tend to care getting money from children merchandise sales. Bandai and Toei doesn't make anywhere near as much money from the older fans as they do from the kids. As long kids love it and buy it then what's they care about.
She/Her
PS5 username: Guyver_Spawn_27
LB Profile: https://letterboxd.com/Hellspawn28/

User avatar
Low Tone G
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1711
Joined: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:34 am

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by Low Tone G » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:29 pm

New series is unlikeky, but some new movies and specials are very possible. Trilogies are likely, like the Broly movies.
English is not my first language!
I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...

User avatar
Hellspawn28
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 15699
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Re: Is a new series inevitable?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:11 pm

I want a good writer and director for a new series. Get Riku Sanjo to work on it since he works with Toei on shows like Kamen Rider W, Kamen Rider Fourze (say what you want, but I like it better then Wizard), Digimon Xros Wars and Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger. His writing would work for Dragon Ball in my opinion.
She/Her
PS5 username: Guyver_Spawn_27
LB Profile: https://letterboxd.com/Hellspawn28/

Post Reply