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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:08 pm

Do we even have anything to go on for this guy besides being below 3,000?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:59 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Do we even have anything to go on for this guy besides being below 3,000?
Not really. But on Bt3 Chi Chi said even she could beat him :lol:
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:09 pm

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RandomGuy96 wrote:Do we even have anything to go on for this guy besides being below 3,000?
Not really. But on Bt3 Chi Chi said even she could beat him :lol:
Hmmm. Depending on how you view Freeza's army, that may not actually be wrong. If a typical grunt there is 100-200, like in Slug's army, and the guys on Namek were just elites, Appule could very well be weaker than Chi Chi (they brought this grunt with the elites as a joke), who was 130 at the 23rd Budokai and may have actually gotten stronger later, since I presume it was Buu Saga Chi Chi who was narrating the character screens. Never mind, I'm just over thinking things again.

But I guess since he doesn't have any feats or statements going for him anyway aside from being part of the group that laughed at Namekians with power levels of 1,000, I'll just peg him at 1,300. A fitting number, because he sucks. Raditz wins.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:24 pm

Future Android 17 vs Imperfect Cell (Not human absorption's)
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:26 pm

Zombie wrote:Future Android 17 vs Imperfect Cell (Not human absorption's)
Exact equals. 17 has the stamina advantage while Cell has the skills advantage plus the tail. 50/50 chance of victory, but due to 17's arrogance and how easy it is to catch someone off guard with the tail, I'll give it to Cell, just barely.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:07 pm

Appule vs Raditz

Personally, I think they're so closely matched that such a battle would probably be the greatest thing in the history of Dragon Ball. The victory could go to either.

Future Android #17 vs Imperfect Cell

Tough one, but I'd say Imperfect Cell wins if he's allowed to absorb 17.
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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:30 am

Ox-King Vs. Mr. Satan
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:33 am

Ox-King god stomps. He was supposed to be Roshi's second greatest student after Grandpa Gohan himself.

Plus, even without that... he's inexplicably gigantic, an seven and a half foot tall mountain of a man. He would still crush Mr. Satan.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:41 am

Well okay then. Ox-King Vs. Tao Pai Pai
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:42 am

Kid Buu wrote:Well okay then. Ox-King Vs. Tao Pai Pai
Tao stomps. He was supposed to be the greatest assassin the world over, and Gohan, who was stronger than Ox-King, was implied to be below 100, which I believe Tao is either at or above.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:43 am

Really? I remember Gohan being on-par with the same Goku who beat Tao. Although I probably need to double read the manga version of that.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:45 am

Kid Buu wrote:Really? I remember Gohan being on-par with the same Goku who beat Tao. Although I probably need to double read the manga version of that.
He'd been training in the Afterlife, I think. I said he was implied to be below 100 because Oozaru Goku, who was said to be 100 in the Daizenshuu, killed him.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Really? I remember Gohan being on-par with the same Goku who beat Tao. Although I probably need to double read the manga version of that.
He'd been training in the Afterlife, I think. I said he was implied to be below 100 because Oozaru Goku, who was said to be 100 in the Daizenshuu, killed him.
That's assuming that Gohan actually fought Oozaru Goku, and was not instead just stepped on in his sleep or something. Gohan managed to survive Oozaru Goku at least once, since he knew to tell Goku not to look at the moon, so he could have been over a hundred.
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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:59 pm

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Kid Buu wrote:Really? I remember Gohan being on-par with the same Goku who beat Tao. Although I probably need to double read the manga version of that.
He'd been training in the Afterlife, I think. I said he was implied to be below 100 because Oozaru Goku, who was said to be 100 in the Daizenshuu, killed him.
That's assuming that Gohan actually fought Oozaru Goku, and was not instead just stepped on in his sleep or something. Gohan managed to survive Oozaru Goku at least once, since he knew to tell Goku not to look at the moon, so he could have been over a hundred.
That's assuming Goku was 10 when he first went Ozaru.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:13 pm

Zombie wrote: That's assuming Goku was 10 when he first went Ozaru.
That's also true. However, Roshi also told Goku that Gohan was the first person he had to resort to using that lightning attack against. Goku was at least over 100 at that point, and Roshi is implied to have been stronger in the past. That would indicate that Gohan was over 100 when he was alive as well.
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:12 pm

The Nappa/Vegeta battle, if Piccolo actually fused with Kami prior to the battle start.
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Post by Kaboom » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:45 pm

Nappa gets his ass effortlessly kicked by Piccolo. Vegeta, though, I'm not sure about. It's possible that Vegeta could at least still beat him with Oozaru.
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Post by The Monkey King » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:59 pm

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:59 pm

Guru said that the son of Kataz shouldn't have been killed by a saiyan, and if he was complete, he wouldn't have died. I think he'd at least be stronger than Nail, so he'd kick the shit out of Vegeta.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by flashback0180 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:41 am

Kid Buu wrote:The Napa/Vegeta battle, if Piccolo actually fused with Kami prior to the battle start.
I'm going with Napa (in ape) and vegeta in base.

Napa is around 5000
Piccolo fused with Kami will just raise his power by a bit . Kami isn't that strong to begin with .We know Kami is less than 400 ,As Piccalo was around 400-460.(against Radditz)

Piccolo was around 3,200 against nappa ... even if we assume Kami was 500 , It still wont be 4000.


AND VEGETA ROLF stomp EVERYONE .



At best with the help of other Z fighters they can defeat Napa.
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