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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Saiga » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:55 pm

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On the other hand, I've been kinda hating 13 the more time goes back. Mostly it has to do with Goku.
I used to hate it for that, and it's still a problem for me, but now that I find Goku's victory more plausible (with Hirudegarn's injury and all that) I've warmed up to it a lot more, and I think it had plenty of positives.
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I don't think Movie 12 was any less more about it, with the fat, jolly, psychopathic, and childish demon who eventually transforms into a much smaller, feral, stronger, and more vicious demon incapable of even speech, who proceeds to beat up SS2 Vegeta and SS3 Goku before being taken down by an extreme maneuver that Goku and Vegeta enact while the strongest side character acts as a distraction.
I was thinking of movie 12 as well. :P But I think movie 4 edges out because at least Janemba's got a rather creative appearance (even if the general idea of being a jolly fatso isn't original to him) and isn't the same race as the one it's rehashing.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:57 pm

^^I'd say it's one of the more subtle ones actually, since it adds tons of stuff like the backstory of Earth's guardian, a side character actually holding his own against the main villain, an interesting power for the villain that ironically plays into his defeat, and a henchmen squad. A henchmen squad that actually does something other than job and die to boot!
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:00 pm

Another unpopular opinion of mine is that I love the Buu Arc the most because it had new characters, new techniques (Fusion, Super Saiyan 3, etc), and awesome villains (Kid Buu, Majin Dabura).

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:14 pm

I would definitely say one of the biggest strengths of the Boo arc is it's freshness. It goes for a different motif like magic which had been previously shoved to the side in favor of technology; albeit this time with a new visual style and scale.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:30 am

The Buu arc is the only time I like Piccolo.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:56 am

I'm not really sure if this would classify as an "unpopular opinion", but I've read My Little Pony fanfics that are better-written than DBZ.

And that bugs me to no end.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheAldella » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:59 am

thatdbzguy wrote:I'm not really sure if this would classify as an "unpopular opinion", but I've read My Little Pony fanfics that are better-written than DBZ.

And that bugs me to no end.
DBZ Fanfics are written by 9 year olds who want to be Trunks' wife and can't spell, sooooo....
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:03 am

TheAldella wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:I'm not really sure if this would classify as an "unpopular opinion", but I've read My Little Pony fanfics that are better-written than DBZ.

And that bugs me to no end.
DBZ Fanfics are written by 9 year olds who want to be Trunks' wife and can't spell, sooooo....
I'm talking about the actual DBZ anime/manga, not its fanfics.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:04 am

FIrst off, I doubt it, and second, what is with you and My Little Pony?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:07 am

ABED wrote:FIrst off, I doubt it, and second, what is with you and My Little Pony?
Why exactly do you doubt it?

And I bring up MLP because, like I've said, it bugs me how both it and its fanfics manage to find ways to put DBZ to shame.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:09 am

thatdbzguy wrote:
ABED wrote:FIrst off, I doubt it, and second, what is with you and My Little Pony?
Why exactly do you doubt it?

And I bring up MLP because, like I've said, it bugs me how both it and its fanfics manage to find ways to put DBZ to shame.
I doubt fanfiction for MLP is better than DBZ, mainly because fan fiction is god awful. DBZ isn't Atlas Shrugged but it's full of charm and great moments.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:11 am

Just out of curiosity, what do you define as well-written thatdbzguy? Don't use My Little Pony as your example, by the way.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by qjz123 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:12 am

thatdbzguy wrote: And I bring up MLP because, like I've said, it bugs me how both it and its fanfics manage to find ways to put DBZ to shame.
In what ways does My Little Pony put DBZ to shame? Do you have any specific examples?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by The Monkey King » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:16 am

ABED wrote:FIrst off, I doubt it, and second, what is with you and My Little Pony?
That would explain some things...

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheAldella » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:16 am

I love this because I've heard it elsewhere.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:17 am

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ABED wrote:FIrst off, I doubt it, and second, what is with you and My Little Pony?
That would explain some things...
Bazinga?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:44 am

mainly because fan fiction is god awful. DBZ isn't Atlas Shrugged but...
This explains so much.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Landcross » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:19 am

thatdbzguy wrote:If Funimation ever redubs DBZ, they should make the entire soundtrack be just Slayer.
Are all of your posts jokes, or something?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheAldella » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:28 am

Landcross wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:If Funimation ever redubs DBZ, they should make the entire soundtrack be just Slayer.
Are all of your posts jokes, or something?
Yo, I laughed my ass off at that. Don't go complaining. That Is an unpopular opinion anyway. Lots of people love Faulconer and don't like the real music in the movies.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thekingfallsdown » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:53 am

New to Kanzenshuu here. I'd like to give some opinions on what I think of Dbz. Some of which may be very unpopular. I'd just like to start off by saying I read this Entire forum post. Starting from page one, to page 114 as of now over the course of 3 days. I like to do my research before joining in........ *Only skipping the parts discussing Yamchas willingness to cheat, because you know that's rather boring/irrelevant to my tastes...*

Okay now onto my points:
  • 1. Up until the buu arcs world tornament, Goku is a good father
    2. I DESPISE Dragon Ball GT but not just because it wasn't wrote by AT
    3. Kidd Buu is my favorite form of buu
    4. I actually enjoyed the Pantera song as well as the others in movie 8
    5. I dislike Kai because they took to much out (By that I mean they could have gone half and half instead of just ditching any an all filler)
    6. I enjoy both Linda Young and Christopher Ayres as Freeza
As a notion on my music point, I DESPISE disturbed being in the Funidub movies Not that I hate them as a band, but I can't stand it because it doesn't fit the show AT ALL. Any thoughts or disagreements guys/girls?
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