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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Landcross » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:44 am

TheAldella wrote:
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thatdbzguy wrote:If Funimation ever redubs DBZ, they should make the entire soundtrack be just Slayer.
Are all of your posts jokes, or something?
Yo, I laughed my ass off at that. Don't go complaining. That Is an unpopular opinion anyway. Lots of people love Faulconer and don't like the real music in the movies.
I forgot I was in "unpopular opinions" for a moment. But...not sure if serious!

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheAldella » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:17 am

I'm sure it wasn't serious, but since you'd called him out, I pointed out that it still works because it irritated me.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:33 am

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mainly because fan fiction is god awful. DBZ isn't Atlas Shrugged but...
This explains so much.
I assume that's a subtle barb at Rand.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:19 am

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ABED wrote:FIrst off, I doubt it, and second, what is with you and My Little Pony?
Why exactly do you doubt it?

And I bring up MLP because, like I've said, it bugs me how both it and its fanfics manage to find ways to put DBZ to shame.
I doubt fanfiction for MLP is better than DBZ, mainly because fan fiction is god awful. DBZ isn't Atlas Shrugged but it's full of charm and great moments.
Don't generalize too much. Not all fanfiction is awful. Hell, there's some MLP fanfics out there that are better written than some official books out there.
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thatdbzguy wrote:If Funimation ever redubs DBZ, they should make the entire soundtrack be just Slayer.
Are all of your posts jokes, or something?
I just think it would be interesting to see it, even if it ends up pretty terrible.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:21 am

Kid Buu wrote:Just out of curiosity, what do you define as well-written thatdbzguy? Don't use My Little Pony as your example, by the way.
A story that has deep, complex characters, little to no plot holes, no OOC-ness, an expansive and well thought out plot, intricate world-building, etc.

As unbelievable as this may sound, I have in fact read a few MLP fanfics that have those attributes. Much moreso than DBZ.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

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Kid Buu wrote:Just out of curiosity, what do you define as well-written thatdbzguy? Don't use My Little Pony as your example, by the way.
A story that has deep, complex characters, little to no plot holes, no OOC-ness, an expansive and well thought out plot, intricate world-building, etc.

As unbelievable as this may sound, I have in fact read a few MLP fanfics that have those attributes. Much moreso than DBZ.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ajay » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:42 am

I'm beyond confused.

In one thread you say you can't handle being part of such a heavily criticised fandom and don't like having opinions that don't conform with a majority and yet here you are writing about how select My Little Pony fanfics are superior to Dragon Ball.

Have your opinions, whatever, but at least be consistent.

Part of me refuses to believe anyone can ignorantly flip-flop like this and I worry that I'll find your posts on 4chan as part of a 'troll the DBZ community' thread.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:44 am

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Kid Buu wrote:Just out of curiosity, what do you define as well-written thatdbzguy? Don't use My Little Pony as your example, by the way.
A story that has deep, complex characters, little to no plot holes, no OOC-ness, an expansive and well thought out plot, intricate world-building, etc.

As unbelievable as this may sound, I have in fact read a few MLP fanfics that have those attributes. Much moreso than DBZ.
You do realize that "higher quality" FAN fiction, doesn't mean the actual series is better. In fact, I never knew MLP had a plot at all except for ponies doing random shit according that certain episode.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:35 am

AjayLikesGaming wrote:I'm beyond confused.

In one thread you say you can't handle being part of such a heavily criticised fandom and don't like having opinions that don't conform with a majority and yet here you are writing about how select My Little Pony fanfics are superior to Dragon Ball.

Have your opinions, whatever, but at least be consistent.

Part of me refuses to believe anyone can ignorantly flip-flop like this and I worry that I'll find your posts on 4chan as part of a 'troll the DBZ community' thread.
I don't care about any hate MLP gets, or how "unpopular" some of my opinions about it I may have. To be honest, I don't know why it bothers me with DBZ and nothing else.
Wibbs wrote: Please don't tell me you're being serious.
I am. You'd see where I'm coming from if you actually read the MLP fics I consider to be much better written than DBZ, though you probably don't care about anything MLP related.
Dbzfan94 wrote: You do realize that "higher quality" FAN fiction, doesn't mean the actual series is better.
I never said otherwise. :eh:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:15 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:I'm beyond confused.

In one thread you say you can't handle being part of such a heavily criticised fandom and don't like having opinions that don't conform with a majority and yet here you are writing about how select My Little Pony fanfics are superior to Dragon Ball.

Have your opinions, whatever, but at least be consistent.

Part of me refuses to believe anyone can ignorantly flip-flop like this and I worry that I'll find your posts on 4chan as part of a 'troll the DBZ community' thread.
I don't care about any hate MLP gets, or how "unpopular" some of my opinions about it I may have. To be honest, I don't know why it bothers me with DBZ and nothing else.
Dbzfan94 wrote: You do realize that "higher quality" FAN fiction, doesn't mean the actual series is better.
I never said otherwise. :eh:
Yeah, you did. "I have in fact read MLP fanfics that have those attributes. Much more so than DBZ."

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:38 pm

ABED wrote:Bazinga?
Saying that annoying "Bazinga" from Big Bang Theory doesn't make it funny whatsoever.
thatdbzguy wrote:
Wibbs wrote: Please don't tell me you're being serious.
I am. You'd see where I'm coming from if you actually read the MLP fics I consider to be much better written than DBZ, though you probably don't care about anything MLP related.
Dbzfan94 wrote: You do realize that "higher quality" FAN fiction, doesn't mean the actual series is better.
I never said otherwise. :eh:
You admitted in your comment above so yes.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:59 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote: Yeah, you did. "I have in fact read MLP fanfics that have those attributes. Much more so than DBZ."
And where in that statement did I say that that made the MLP show better than DBZ? :eh:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:44 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
ABED wrote:Bazinga?
Saying that annoying "Bazinga" from Big Bang Theory doesn't make it funny whatsoever.
I wasn't trying to be funny, notice the question mark at the end. I was asking if your previous comment was meant as a joke. And BBT is hilarious.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:38 pm

ABED wrote:
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mainly because fan fiction is god awful. DBZ isn't Atlas Shrugged but...
This explains so much.
I assume that's a subtle barb at Rand.
I wasn't really being subtle.

And that book is completely awful regardless of your political views just from a literary viewpoint, what with the rambling, incomprehensible style of the prose, the cardboard cutout characters, the strawmen, and the giant filibuster that goes on and on for 70 damn pages.

Don't cite that waste of ink as an example of good writing.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:51 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I wasn't really being subtle.

And that book is completely awful regardless of your political views just from a literary viewpoint, what with the rambling, incomprehensible style of the prose, the cardboard cutout characters, the strawmen, and the giant filibuster that goes on and on for 70 damn pages.

Don't cite that waste of ink as an example of good writing.
I think you are wrong, there are very few writers that are as good as she is and clear as she is. She's also an original thinker. The fact that you call them cardboard characters or her arguments strawmen shows that you don't understand her. Hank Rearden is hardly cardboard, and Francisco is basically Batman. You say "strawmen" and I say that I've heard people make those arguments. So what if the speech was long, it was all necessary to make the point. However if this is off topic, if you want to continue then PM me. I still don't see how that "explains a lot" about me.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:32 pm

Like I said before, DBZ beats all things MLP for one very important reason: There is no new word that has been coined to specifically mean masturbating to DBZ characters. :sick:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by orbweaver » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:49 pm

There has got to be some Internet rule that's invoked when My Little Pony or Ayn Rand get brought up in comparison to something else, and there's ESPECIALLY got to be a rule for when they're brought up in the same thread.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:05 pm

orbweaver wrote:There has got to be some Internet rule that's invoked when My Little Pony or Ayn Rand get brought up in comparison to something else, and there's ESPECIALLY got to be a rule for when they're brought up in the same thread.
It wasn't meant to be what it became, I just meant to use Atlas Shrugged as an innocent comparison. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on one's POV) bringing up Rand brings out the venom in some people. Had I written "it's not like DBZ is Catcher in the Rye" and few if anyone would bat an eye despite that book being tripe. Next time I should probably pick a less controversial choice like "To Kill a Mockingbird".
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:49 pm

Times like this make me happy that I have thatdbzguy on my ignore list. His post are pretty bad, but you guys should just ignore him. I think his post about MLP and DBZ seems like a cry for attention.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Landcross » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:35 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Times like this make me happy that I have thatdbzguy on my ignore list. His post are pretty bad, but you guys should just ignore him. I think his post about MLP and DBZ seems like a cry for attention.
Surely he is trolling? I mean...right?

Anyways. Another unpopular Dragon Ball opinion....I enjoy the Garlic Jr Saga. At least some of it.

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