How strong is Mecha Frieza?

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Re: How strong is Mecha Freeza?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:31 pm

Fionordequester wrote:
He only got killed off quickly because he didn't power up.
I don't believe that you could know that for sure.
He didn't bulk-up, was stated to not be at full power, and was never stated to have powered up. I think we know here.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: How strong is Mecha Freeza?

Post by Gokuden » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:57 am

Unlike his father before him, Trunks doesn't waste opportunities to get the job done due to his pride. We'll never know what Mecha Freezer was capable of because Trunks made quick work of him. :crazy:

Anybody think King Cold would have been trouble for Saiyans had he transformed into his last form?

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Re: How strong is Mecha Freeza?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:05 am

Cold doesn't have a 'last form', and even if he did, he'd still be weaker than Freeza.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: How strong is Mecha Freeza?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:08 am

Gokuden wrote:Anybody think King Cold would have been trouble for Saiyans had he transformed into his last form?
No. Pretty sure that If his transformation would have granted him any substantial amount of power, if he even has the ability to transform, he would have. Trunks gave him the chance to transform by telling him to bring everything he had at him, and he chose to try the stupid sword. So if he's not at max power when we see him in the series, then he's close enough to it that it he didn't see what he had in reserve as any benefit to him.
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Re: How strong is Mecha Freeza?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:11 am

Not to mention he outright said that anyone that could defeat Freeza is the strongest person in the universe.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: How strong is Mecha Freeza?

Post by Flame Dragon » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:08 pm

I believe the difference is marginal at best.
Also his cybernetic parts didn't include an infinite energy reactor, right?
So he has no infinite stamina and ki like 17&18.
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Re: How strong is Mecha Freeza?

Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:55 am

I think Full power Mecha Frieza is just strong enough to beat Namek SSJ Goku but weak enough that 1 arm SSJ Gohan could still beat him.
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