I believe U4 Buu was hatch as Super Buu instead of Fat Buu. Super Buu went on a rampage in U4 and start to absorb everyone. Goku did fuse with Vegeta then try to free everyone inside and failed.miguelnuva1 wrote:Zen Buu beat Goku and Vegeta inside himself so that is most likely the divergence point.Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder if Universe 4 will get a special chapter? It won't surprise me in Universe 4 that Buu was hatch as Super Buu instead of Fat Buu after being release from his egg.
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He did the same, when fighting Recoome.coola wrote:Yes, he had his angry moments in manga/anime too, but after these moments, he snap out of it, and escape, here, he keep going "NO! I have to finish him!" despite clearly being outmatched.
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This fight is going on its 15th page, and we still don't even know anything important about what happened in this universe. Come on, surely there's more in this ENTIRE UNIVERSE than just this long and boring Gohan/Krillin vs Zarbon fight?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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clearly you have not read any of the other specials
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Super Buu would really give the z warriors enough time to fuse would he? I could only see Gogeta trying to fight Buu instead of Vegito as Gohan should have been killed or absorbed and Goten and Trunks wouldn't have had anywhere near enough time to master fusion.Hellspawn28 wrote:I believe U4 Buu was hatch as Super Buu instead of Fat Buu. Super Buu went on a rampage in U4 and start to absorb everyone. Goku did fuse with Vegeta then try to free everyone inside and failed.miguelnuva1 wrote:Zen Buu beat Goku and Vegeta inside himself so that is most likely the divergence point.Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder if Universe 4 will get a special chapter? It won't surprise me in Universe 4 that Buu was hatch as Super Buu instead of Fat Buu after being release from his egg.
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Except he didn't, both times they tried it.Super Buu would really give the z warriors enough time to fuse would he?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Hopefully.
Oh god please let this finish him off. He's already weakened enough, he looks like he's going to die without attention.
Oh god please let this finish him off. He's already weakened enough, he looks like he's going to die without attention.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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This seems a bit draggged out. Don't ya agree? The pacing in this is horrible. So far the only thing I learned from this special is that Gohan in this universe rage last longer and the fact that Krillin and Gohan encounter Zarbon.
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Yeah, I have to admit, I'm not caring for the pace here either. Normally I'm more okay with it than most, because taking in to account how it will read when read back-to-back instead of waiting days at a time for a page, it's usually not that bad. For this one though, we've spent essentially the entire two-part special just dealing with Dodoria and Zarbon, not even showing how differently the Ginyus would figure into this, or most importantly how Goku would attempt to defeat Freeza and fail. That's what I want to see in this universe.
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Is this really longer than many DBZ fights though? It seems to me like this was about the average length of a fight in the manga.
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Yes this is. In fact besides MAJOR fights. But fights last about 1 - 2 chapters. Maybe 3 at best. However since this is formatted differently it seems like it's going to be FOREVER. I took a month break from the manga while I was banned. Yet we're on the same fight and I've learned nothing from this special yet.Fionordequester wrote:Is this really longer than many DBZ fights though? It seems to me like this was about the average length of a fight in the manga.
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It is. But we don't have an entire manga series to unpack all the changes from the timeline. Only like what, 20 pages?Fionordequester wrote:Is this really longer than many DBZ fights though? It seems to me like this was about the average length of a fight in the manga.
I don't mind the pacing on this one so far though, but if Zarbon would die so easily there's no way he or Vegeta would have been such threats. Look at how many attacks Vegeta tanked on earth.
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The difference is most DBZ fights were suspenseful and we wanted them to last long when we first read them, whereas here most DBM special chapter fights have no surprises and we can't wait for them to be over.Fionordequester wrote:Is this really longer than many DBZ fights though? It seems to me like this was about the average length of a fight in the manga.
That said, Krillin's Taiyoken+Kienzan combo was definitely an unexpected and interesting event.
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Its shorter than normal fights in the manga. It has only been a few pages. It seems longer because its released one page at a time. So, once again, it has nothing to do with pacing, only to do with the release schedule.Fionordequester wrote:Is this really longer than many DBZ fights though? It seems to me like this was about the average length of a fight in the manga.
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Super Buu wants a good opponent to fight. He rush up to Kami's Look Out in order to fight Gotenks.miguelnuva1 wrote:
Super Buu would really give the z warriors enough time to fuse would he?
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He knows when doing so is a bad idea, however. That's why Goku and Gohan didn't get to fuse.Hellspawn28 wrote:Super Buu wants a good opponent to fight. He rush up to Kami's Look Out in order to fight Gotenks.miguelnuva1 wrote:
Super Buu would really give the z warriors enough time to fuse would he?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Even with the schedule the pacing in this is horrible. Aren't we suppose to learn more about this universe? Besides Vegeta dying early?rereboy wrote:Its shorter than normal fights in the manga. It has only been a few pages. It seems longer because its released one page at a time. So, once again, it has nothing to do with pacing, only to do with the release schedule.Fionordequester wrote:Is this really longer than many DBZ fights though? It seems to me like this was about the average length of a fight in the manga.
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Hmm...after doing a count, the fight so far has lasted for 15 pages, so...take that for what you will. Really, if nothing else, I wish the Kienzan had worked, just so Krilling could FINALLY get to do something awesome 
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Those are plot and story decisions, not pacing problems.TheGmGoken wrote:
Even with the schedule the pacing in this is horrible. Aren't we suppose to learn more about this universe? Besides Vegeta dying early?