The pacing of the story in order for the plot to continue. Honestly this fight could had been summed up in a shorter amount of time.rereboy wrote:Those are plot and story decisions, not pacing problems.TheGmGoken wrote:
Even with the schedule the pacing in this is horrible. Aren't we suppose to learn more about this universe? Besides Vegeta dying early?
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15 pages is too long? Its not even a whole chapter of a weekly manga...TheGmGoken wrote: The pacing of the story in order for the plot to continue. Honestly this fight could had been summed up in a shorter amount of time.
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Actually some are......I hope you know that right?rereboy wrote:15 pages is too long? Its not even a whole chapter of a weekly manga...TheGmGoken wrote: The pacing of the story in order for the plot to continue. Honestly this fight could had been summed up in a shorter amount of time.
To long for this fight then yes. The plot barely moved forward. I mean in most manga-anime fights you get plot moments from a fight in 3 pages and 15 minutes of fighting. I even took a break from the manga for a few weeks(A month and 2 weeks) and still the plot barely moved forward.
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As you should know, a normal chapter from a weekly manga is 18 to 23 pages.TheGmGoken wrote:
Actually some are......I hope you know that right?
To long for this fight then yes. The plot barely moved forward. I mean in most manga-anime fights you get plot moments from a fight in 3 pages and 15 minutes of fighting. I even took a break from the manga for a few weeks(A month and 2 weeks) and still the plot barely moved forward.
And, ONCE AGAIN, you are complaining about the release schedule, not about anything else. Things didn't advance much because there's only 3 or 4 pages released per week. That's it.
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But this is a Dragon Ball fan manga, and Dragon Ball had an average page count of like 14.rereboy wrote:As you should know, a normal chapter from a weekly manga is 18 to 23 pages.
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It depended, but I was just putting things in perspective anyway. Arguing that a fight is taking too long when, at most, its as long as one short chapter of a weekly manga doesn't really make much sense.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:But this is a Dragon Ball fan manga, and Dragon Ball had an average page count of like 14.rereboy wrote:As you should know, a normal chapter from a weekly manga is 18 to 23 pages.
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This special started perfectly, spending one-two page at stuff that we already know, but then, they had to show entire fight with Zarbon, with, in my opinion, wasn`t necessary at all. My favorite pace special, is still Kaioshin one.
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I get that the specials help stall for time while the artists draw the original story, but this is getting ridiculous. It's like they're now doing a special every other chapter. >.>
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Freeza in this universe is in his 4th form. SSj Goku in this Universe must be strong enough to push Freeza to his 4th form. Trunks is not born in this Universe given that Vegeta died much earlier. Freeza most likely destroy the Earth a few years before #17 and #18 arrive.RandomGuy96 wrote:If Goku went SS here when he arrived, he'd be one-shot fodder to Freeza, even if the latter chose to use less then 10% of his power.
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If Goku went Super when he first arrived on Namek, he'd be at 4.5 million, which is strong enough to force Freeza into his final form.
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Yes, it`s pretty sad page, unfortunately, we have to remember, that in this special, heroes are doomed 
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YES! FINALLY! IT'S OVER! Now maybe the special can actually tell us something we don't know.
I like the general idea of this fight- wearing Zarbon down with tricks (surprise attacks, distractions, Solar Flare, Kienzan) and teamwork to overcome his tremendous battle power- but it really, really didn't need to be this long. Hell, even the length isn't THAT bad for the fight itself; it has much more to do with the release schedule and, to a greater extent, the format of the special it appears in. A 15-16 page fight takes up a whole lot of space to tell us something that should already be fairly obvious, and it wastes pages that could be better used explaining the more interesting stuff about this universe.
At least it's not just another massacre special, like the Kaioshin, Saiyan Cell, and Bojack ones. Yet.
I like the general idea of this fight- wearing Zarbon down with tricks (surprise attacks, distractions, Solar Flare, Kienzan) and teamwork to overcome his tremendous battle power- but it really, really didn't need to be this long. Hell, even the length isn't THAT bad for the fight itself; it has much more to do with the release schedule and, to a greater extent, the format of the special it appears in. A 15-16 page fight takes up a whole lot of space to tell us something that should already be fairly obvious, and it wastes pages that could be better used explaining the more interesting stuff about this universe.
At least it's not just another massacre special, like the Kaioshin, Saiyan Cell, and Bojack ones. Yet.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
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The fights aren't long at all, it's the way that the chapters are released that ruins everything and makes it feel like it's going on forever, and the fact that the fights are boring in the specials.
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My issue with specials is that they are just filler. They release specials three days during the week when they could just release them as one big chapter since they hold off the man story.
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I want Zarbon to get back up.
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Not likely. He's not even in beast form anymore.
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I'm expecting a Saiyan Arc Vegeta moment here: Zarbon getting back up and Gohan scared that he wasn't killed after that. Nail will probably arrive and finish him off before he can do anything else though.
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I was actually envisioning something similar, but different, if Zarbon's still alive - he gets back up, starts to attack, and gets potshotted from afar by an energy blast from Nail, ala Salza in movie 5. 
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With that route they would have to spend weeks or months without releasing anything since they are working on main story chapters as the special chapters are released.Hellspawn28 wrote:My issue with specials is that they are just filler. They release specials three days during the week when they could just release them as one big chapter since they hold off the man story.