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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:16 pm

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Hellspawn28 wrote:My issue with specials is that they are just filler. They release specials three days during the week when they could just release them as one big chapter since they hold off the man story.
With that route they would have to spend weeks or months without releasing anything since they are working on main story chapters as the special chapters are released.
I would prefer that, because reading the whole chapter in one go is much better.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:37 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: I would prefer that, because reading the whole chapter in one go is much better.
Its a matter of preference. I prefer this way because, if I feel like reading several pages at once, I simply don't check for new pages for a while and then read them in one go. And if I want to check every new page, I do. If they released a bunch of pages every few months, I wouldn't have any option but to wait a long time for anything new. So the current method seems the most advantageous in my perspective.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:59 am

Poor Krillin, but you know what? If he taught himself how to aim, he wouldn't be dead now.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Tzigi » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:36 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:My issue with specials is that they are just filler. They release specials three days during the week when they could just release them as one big chapter since they hold off the man story.
With that route they would have to spend weeks or months without releasing anything since they are working on main story chapters as the special chapters are released.
I would prefer that, because reading the whole chapter in one go is much better.
I think that this is about the fourth or the fifth time we're discussing it in this very topic. There's nothing stopping you from not reading DBM for a month or two so that you will enjoy it more. There are other people who prefer this kind of release. And there's Salagir who decided that DBM will be released in this way and it's up to him to decide (and I sincerely hope that the schedule will stay as it is now).

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:03 pm

Finally the damn fight is over. To bad for Krillin though. He never marries 18 and never gets a filler girlfriend. Hopefully this special we get good as it been mighty boring.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by mAcChaos » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:06 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:My issue with specials is that they are just filler. They release specials three days during the week when they could just release them as one big chapter since they hold off the man story.
With that route they would have to spend weeks or months without releasing anything since they are working on main story chapters as the special chapters are released.
I would prefer that, because reading the whole chapter in one go is much better.
Then just... don't read it until it's all released.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:34 pm

rereboy wrote:
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Actually some are......I hope you know that right?

To long for this fight then yes. The plot barely moved forward. I mean in most manga-anime fights you get plot moments from a fight in 3 pages and 15 minutes of fighting. I even took a break from the manga for a few weeks(A month and 2 weeks) and still the plot barely moved forward.
As you should know, a normal chapter from a weekly manga is 18 to 23 pages.

And, ONCE AGAIN, you are complaining about the release schedule, not about anything else. Things didn't advance much because there's only 3 or 4 pages released per week. That's it.
As I said. It depends on the manga. Some are bigger or smaller. But I guess you can say the average is 16 - 22 pages

No I mean the pacing. Because I know many Fan-Mangas that do once a week and the story advancement is better compared to 3 -4 pages a week. The pacing in SPECIALS are horrible IMO. I don't care for the schedule no more since nothing will change it so it's useless. But the pacing in specials are just bad. Though a very few of them have decent pacing. As I said. I learn more from 1 -2 pages of everyone manga I've read(Including fights) than the last 5 of this one.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote: I would prefer that, because reading the whole chapter in one go is much better.
I think that this is about the fourth or the fifth time we're discussing it in this very topic. There's nothing stopping you from not reading DBM for a month or two so that you will enjoy it more.
Maybe people's opinion's haven't change. Or that they've taken your advice and they still find it bad. Also doesn't most chapters take at last 3 months to finish?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:05 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:..
You keep blaming the wrong thing. You don't like the specials because you just don't find them interesting and you think that the fights are boring. It has nothing to do with pacing but you keep just talking about pacing.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:08 pm

rereboy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:..
You keep blaming the wrong thing. You don't like the specials because you just don't find them interesting and you think that the fights are boring. It has nothing to do with pacing but you keep just talking about pacing.
This is one of of think 3 specials I think is legit boring. The rest I think are interesting but some with bad pacing which kills the mood or just executed wrong. Depends on the special honestly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:40 pm

mAcChaos wrote:Then just... don't read it until it's all released.
a) I'm not strong enough to resist ( :P ), and b) I don't want to ignore a very active thread.

I'm not complaining or anything (I don't like the way the pages are released, but that wasn't my point), I was just pointing out that it feels too long because it takes too long to complete the chapter. I remember when everyone was like "STILL NOT OVER?!" with the Vegetto vs Pure Boo special, and when I read it all at once, it felt very quick. Heck, even the Bra special was far better when I read it all at once, while it felt much more boring and random when you read 1 page every ~2 days. Liking or not the schedule is irrelevant, the fact is, it makes the manga feeling like it takes too long, and this makes DBM look much worse than it really is.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Flame Dragon » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:49 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:My issue with specials is that they are just filler. They release specials three days during the week when they could just release them as one big chapter since they hold off the man story.
I'd like specials more if they had the same artstyle as the main story. When i'm reading something that looks like a bad version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, it kinda breaks my immersion.
Now with the crappy writing and crappy artstyle, i just consider specials "filler" that just bogs down the entire final product, aka Multiverse.

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Post by rereboy » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:22 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: a) I'm not strong enough to resist ( :P ), and b) I don't want to ignore a very active thread.
This thread, while there's a special going on, mainly serves to complain about the specials, the pacing and the release schedule. There's hardly anything else. So you are not missing much or at least nothing that hasn't been posted several times before. As for not being strong enough to resist reading the comic in the way you would enjoy it more... well, you can only blame yourself for that.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:20 pm

rereboy wrote:This thread, while there's a special going on, mainly serves to complain about the specials, the pacing and the release schedule. There's hardly anything else.
Sadly, that's true. It wasn't like that in the past, wasn't it?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kaboom » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:23 pm

Nah, not entirely, but we've had something to complain about (Broly being a match for Vegetto) since the first page.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:42 pm

Kaboom wrote:Nah, not entirely, but we've had something to complain about (Broly being a match for Vegetto) since the first page.
Well, I came here after the Broli arc. :P But I'm thinking to start avoiding this thread, and read the whole chapters after they are finished. I can do that with the specials, since I don't find them interesting, but I hope I'll do that with the tournament as well.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Mystic Buu » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:01 pm

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I'm confused :crazy: .Why is Bulma going to the Guru?

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:04 pm

Maybe she's not, maybe it just cuts away from her arriving at the battlefield with the injured Gohan and dead Kuririn, and then the scene changes to Guru's the following day.

It is pretty unclear though.

Oh wait. *facepalm* I think my brain glitched and I read this right-to-left. Ack. This is what happens when one reads way too much manga.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by coola » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:07 pm

Poor Kuririn :( You can spot Gohan on backseat, he must somehow returned back to cave, and ask Bulma, to take him to Dende, it look like you can see through her on last panel
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Post by Mystic Buu » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:11 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Maybe she's not, maybe it just cuts away from her arriving at the battlefield with the injured Gohan and dead Kuririn, and then the scene changes to Guru's the following day.

It is pretty unclear though.
It could be what you say.But how did Bulma knew where were Gohan and Krillin?Only explanation is that she heard Gohan screaming Krillin's name and Gohan told her where is Guru's place,so that Dende can heal him.It's nice to see her doing something rather than in U18.Too bad Krillin is dead :( .

EDIT:Or what coola said.Actually that makes much more sense than my explanation.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:16 pm

I honestly would bust my ass off laughing if Bulma was shot. Though then Gohan would die :( .

Wonder what's going to happen.

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