Well to be fair, there are materials in real life that can survive a lot of heat but easily break from physical stress or be cut, and vice-versa. Still GT is full of plot holes like that.Strife1 wrote:TheRed259 wrote:Back to the the question: Ssj4 Goku being able to withstand the power of the sun, but getting cut by normal glass.
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Well, the glass and the building things are fucking GT mistake/plotholes to dramatize those shitty scenes!!Polyphase Avatron wrote:Well to be fair, there are materials in real life that can survive a lot of heat but easily break from physical stress or be cut, and vice-versa. Still GT is full of plot holes like that.Strife1 wrote:TheRed259 wrote:Back to the the question: Ssj4 Goku being able to withstand the power of the sun, but getting cut by normal glass.
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True. I never liked GT.MDSTSSJ wrote:Well, the glass and the building things are fucking GT mistake/plotholes to dramatize those shitty scenes!!
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Probably destruction scaling (Not necessarily that every punch blows up a planet, but greater physical damage at higher ki outputs) and the tension-kill from the dragon balls. I don't know if the second point is necessarily logistical or creative. So most of the previous posts, I guess? Some of the others I don't think much of, say the order of magnitude of villains- the last two villains would never appear in the first place if not for the very specific events of the story- I that almost sounds like an acknowledgement of overkill to me.
Meanwhile, and I feel like a troll for doing this, but did someone say BIG PROBLEMS?
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Meanwhile, and I feel like a troll for doing this, but did someone say BIG PROBLEMS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWrWAy7bX5A
Hooo boy, found this out of the youtube woodwork as a recommended to one of Halusatwin's Falcouner crew mixes. Mostly points agreed upon by most fans but whoa. (Also notice where 80% of the issues come in.
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Another one: They often forget about the existence of animal people for no reason. For example, Buu's human extinction attack: Were all the animal people spared? Or did Buu think they were humans? Or what?
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Ki control. Goku vs. Freeza was the most environmentally devastating battle I've seen in the series. Why? Later on when the characters are much stronger, the area is still in one piece more or less. Is it that they have more control over their power? Am I missing something? I figure Goku vs. Kid Buu would be the worst of them, considering Kid Buu is a wild boy.
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That's just the series terminology. Every humanoid species, from Saiyans to Namekians, are called humans. Buu killed all 6,000,000,000 people on Earth. That'd include the animal-type Earthlings.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Another one: They often forget about the existence of animal people for no reason. For example, Buu's human extinction attack: Were all the animal people spared? Or did Buu think they were humans? Or what?
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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This is brought up a lot but I don't recall him being cut by glass happening. Was it against Omega Shenron?Strife1 wrote:Back to the the question: Ssj4 Goku being able to withstand the power of the sun, but getting cut by normal glass.
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But in that case, it wasn't a human "extinction" attack, since what would be called "humans" still existed on other planets.RandomGuy96 wrote:That's just the series terminology. Every humanoid species, from Saiyans to Namekians, are called humans. Buu killed all 6,000,000,000 people on Earth. That'd include the animal-type Earthlings.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Another one: They often forget about the existence of animal people for no reason. For example, Buu's human extinction attack: Were all the animal people spared? Or did Buu think they were humans? Or what?
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Well, the Kamehameha doesn't shoot turtles at people, so I think a little leniency with the attack names is warranted.Polyphase Avatron wrote:But in that case, it wasn't a human "extinction" attack, since what would be called "humans" still existed on other planets.RandomGuy96 wrote:That's just the series terminology. Every humanoid species, from Saiyans to Namekians, are called humans. Buu killed all 6,000,000,000 people on Earth. That'd include the animal-type Earthlings.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Another one: They often forget about the existence of animal people for no reason. For example, Buu's human extinction attack: Were all the animal people spared? Or did Buu think they were humans? Or what?
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"Dragon Ball logic" is what pretty much made DBZ terrible.
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thatdbzguy wrote:"Dragon Ball logic" is what pretty much made DBZ terrible.
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How are you getting a Greek god vibe from any of the Dragon Ball deities?TheGmGoken wrote: On Topic:
How Gods work. Not a fan of the style. However it's based on religion and Greek Gods. Which isn't my sort of topic. So I don't complain much.
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As I said. It's not my sort of topic. As I lack knowledge on these types of things. Isn't it Buddhism the Gods are based on? Not Greek? Ugh! I hate this topic so much. I feel so stupid talking about it.Kamiccolo9 wrote:How are you getting a Greek god vibe from any of the Dragon Ball deities?TheGmGoken wrote: On Topic:
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The cut chapter where Kaioshin raped Chi Chi?Kamiccolo9 wrote:How are you getting a Greek god vibe from any of the Dragon Ball deities?TheGmGoken wrote: On Topic:
How Gods work. Not a fan of the style. However it's based on religion and Greek Gods. Which isn't my sort of topic. So I don't complain much.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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I like some of the characters.TheGmGoken wrote:thatdbzguy wrote:"Dragon Ball logic" is what pretty much made DBZ terrible.. Ever heard of "If you don't have anything nice to say. Don't say anything at all"? Well I think it'll be nice if you at least once a month said something positive about DB on a DB forum. At least the first series. I've only seen dislike of DBZ from you besides liking Goten. I've never seen you say anything nice about DragonBALL. I respect your opinion on DBZ but I thought you at least liked DB.....
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Goku having 2 kids despite showing no actual onscreen attraction to Chichi. I mean he looks hilariously repulsed when she hugs him after he agrees to marry her. I know this is shonen but I still find it funny to think about.
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^this is so sad because my favorite Dragon Ball pairing is Chichi x Goku, yet there is so little evidence of them loving each other even though they are canon 
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Really the Z fighters are more analogous to the Greek gods.Kamiccolo9 wrote:How are you getting a Greek god vibe from any of the Dragon Ball deities?
Except the Olympians at least pretended to care when squishy normal people got exploded during divine punch-ups.
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Chi Chi forced him? Or like some animals they mated with no "love" from it. Just to reproduce. Though Goku was mostly during that or perhaps how Saiyans breed while Chi Chi thought it was love. Though in the anime they did Kiss.superkakarrot2 wrote:Goku having 2 kids despite showing no actual onscreen attraction to Chichi. I mean he looks hilariously repulsed when she hugs him after he agrees to marry her. I know this is shonen but I still find it funny to think about.
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