Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[samuraix123]

Regardless whether it's bland or not, it's still part of Dragonball and as a collector I'd let like to get everything and I don't really consider something being tacked on to a video game an official release

[Gyt Kaliba]

Agreed with samuraix123 on this one. That and, I don't exactly have a 360 and even if I did, 'DBZ for Kinect' isn't high on my priority of games to get (though I do want to eventually, just because I want to own every DBZ game that came out stateside. I know, I'm obsessed...and also far, far behind on this goal). Bland as it may be, it's still a part of the franchise that I'd love to be able to own on DVD. Same goes for 'Plan to Destroy the Super Saiyans'.

Besides, I bought Evolution on DVD. Clearly I'm a Dragon Ball whore. *sobs*

[samuraix123]

Well...........Dragonball Evolution is an exception LOL I have never bought nor will I ever unless I'm not in my right mind or one my future kids is like ''Daddy I want to Dragonball Evolution!'' Then I'll ground them. LOL

[dbboxkaifan]

Agreed with samuraix123 on this one. That and, I don't exactly have a 360 and even if I did, 'DBZ for Kinect' isn't high on my priority of games to get (though I do want to eventually, just because I want to own every DBZ game that came out stateside. I know, I'm obsessed...and also far, far behind on this goal). Bland as it may be, it's still a part of the franchise that I'd love to be able to own on DVD. Same goes for 'Plan to Destroy the Super Saiyans'.

Besides, I bought Evolution on DVD. Clearly I'm a Dragon Ball whore. *sobs*

Owning them on DVD would be a downgrade considering they're available in High Definition.

The Episode of Bardock is good for one thing, seeing Bardock turn Super Saiyan for a moment.

[ABED]

What do you mean by "original broadcast audio"?

[Gyt Kaliba]

Owning them on DVD would be a downgrade considering they're available in High Definition.

And I could care less about 'HD' honestly. Don't have a Bluray player at the moment, so DVD it would be.

[qjz123]

What do you mean by "original broadcast audio"?

This http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=11296 .

[Cipher]

And even if it does we'll still keep buying their other crap releases hahaha

Eh, speak for yourself. I for one have no intention of lining FUNimation's coffers with money for their pitiful table scraps. And unless they give me a VERY compelling reason, I have no reason to own the series more than I already do. And so far... they're not even getting CLOSE.

Put me down as one more person not buying these.

I do think they offer a reasonable improvement from the orange bricks. I do think they'd be watchable.

But I have zero incentive to pay to own the series again with all these sets' faults and when I already own both the Dragon Boxes and Kai on Blu-Ray. I'm maxed out. The only thing they could possibly sell me on for Z again would be a truly stellar 4:3 HD restoration, and even then, it wouldn't be a day one purchase.

[TheOverlyMadHatter]

What do you mean by "original broadcast audio"?

Wow, I'm surprised you're not caught up with this, unless you're asking whether we're talking about the Japanese or US broadcast audio. In the former case, pretty much, the audio used in most official release use poorly digitized optical tracks which create an overly muffled effect in the audio, making it sound more dated than it actually is. The original run of the Dragon Ball obviously used audio from master tapes, which sounds much clearer than any official Dragon Ball release to this day. The reason for the shift in audio quality is because Toei more than likely threw their audio master tapes away like they had a tendency to do with most of their running anime. However, there are people who have recordings of the entire original run of the Dragon Ball series with said audio, including kei17, who is in the process of deciding who should handle the tape recordings so we may see it in an official Dragon Ball release, or at least have the audio properly stored away. Here's a sample

[kidglov3s]

Great images, I made this comparison.



WHAT A JOKE!

[qjz123]

Great images, I made this comparison.



WHAT A JOKE!

Again while the shot from the season blu rays does indeed look atrocious not even the properly remastered level sets would have stood a chance here. The Kai shot is from one of the 35mm episodes a source that Funimation doesn't have.

[dbboxkaifan]

Great images, I made this comparison.



WHAT A JOKE!

FUNimation could have at least gotten the colours right but not even that. :-/

The colours on the Level BDs were very similar to the ones on the Orange Bricks & Season BDs.

[Kojiro Sasaki]

Great images, I made this comparison.

Spoiler:

WHAT A JOKE!

Again while the shot from the season blu rays does indeed look atrocious not even the properly remastered level sets would have stood a chance here. The Kai shot is from one of the 35mm episodes a source that Funimation doesn't have.

This 35 mm frame, scanned at 4K and downsized to 2K resolution, without any kind of filtering, would look even better than Kai shot...

Hell only knows how raw 16 mm scan would look compared to Kai... This blurriness* is caused by idiotic DVNR and/or other moronic filters they are using.

* - I mean bluriness on the season sets!

[AnimeMaakuo]

Also, in response to Metalwario64, one instance of film damage does not imply that they stopped cleaning.

But then, this is FUNimation we're talking about. When it comes to Dragon Ball, they don't always make the best business decisions.

No, they don't. It's simply embarrassing. Nobody should have to release Dragon Ball that many times and still not get it right.

[qjz123]

This 35 mm frame, scanned at 4K and downsized to 2K resolution, without any kind of filtering, would look even better than Kai shot...

Hell only knows how raw 16 mm scan would look compared to Kai... This blurriness is caused by idiotic DVNR and/or other moronic filters they are using.

True Kai did look very blurry in comparison to the level sets
http://i.minus.com/iSSQDYkWwmJ54.png
http://i.minus.com/imAIwjT1B1aOq.png
http://i.minus.com/iCI9Aeygl3iwJ.png
http://i.minus.com/iBwtGKIXP3mPO.png

[Ajay]

Kai is blurry because it's put through similar DNR processes that these Season sets were put through. Difference being, whoever worked on Kai actually knew how to do it tastefully and had access to higher quality masters.

At least with Kai, you can bump your sharpness up a couple of notches and it looks absolutely perfect.

[dbboxkaifan]

True Kai did look very blurry in comparison to the level sets
http://i.minus.com/iSSQDYkWwmJ54.png
http://i.minus.com/imAIwjT1B1aOq.png
http://i.minus.com/iCI9Aeygl3iwJ.png
http://i.minus.com/iBwtGKIXP3mPO.png

If you were to remove the grain from the Level footage it would end up being blurry/DNR'd too and with Kai they tried to stay consistent with their PQ even if that meant going from great to good to average.

[qjz123]

True Kai did look very blurry in comparison to the level sets
http://i.minus.com/iSSQDYkWwmJ54.png
http://i.minus.com/imAIwjT1B1aOq.png
http://i.minus.com/iCI9Aeygl3iwJ.png
http://i.minus.com/iBwtGKIXP3mPO.png

If you were to remove the grain from the Level footage it would end up being blurry/DNR'd too and with Kai they tried to stay consistent with their PQ even if that meant going from great to good to average.

Still doesn't change the fact that the level sets look sharper.

[qjz123]

Kai is blurry because it's put through similar DNR processes that these Season sets were put through. Difference being, whoever worked on Kai actually knew how to do it tastefully and had access to higher quality masters.

At least with Kai, you can bump your sharpness up a couple of notches and it looks absolutely perfect.

Kai definitely looks better than the season blu rays but no matter how much you bump up the sharpness your not going to get back the detail lost here http://i.minus.com/iSSQDYkWwmJ54.png on Kame house. Now that's not to say Kai is all bad you do get much better dark details.

[Fizzer]

Really, those comparisons just remind me how orgasmic the Levels look.