Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[Black_Anime_Fan]

You haven't seen the film artifacts in Kai? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv9-CBDW8eA Here you go. They're clear as day here. And pretty much any decent Bluray remaster of an old Anime TV series I've seen has this sort of stuff. But the only other two I have seen are Berserk and Cowboy Bebop, and they both look really good in 1080p and have this sort of stuff too. If you compare Kai (when sharpened) to Bebop and Berserk's blurays, the three have this sort of element that the level sets didn't. I can't quite touch on what it is. It's like if you degrained the level sets, you wouldn't get a great picture. But Kai (sharpened), Bebop and Berserk, when degrained, still look incredibly good.

The orange bricks, the level sets, and the season blu rays all had the same crushed black issues. The problem isn't the remastering process it's the film it self.

They all also had their colours adjusted by FUNimation.... this includes the Alpha and Luma levels a.k.a the whites and blacks. And if you're thinking FUNi don't play around with that stuff, well in the level sets, for some reason they decided to turn the blacks into dark gray, even though it was all already crushed to the point of being solid black. FUNimation just lack skill and understanding. Why is that so hard to accept?

Because it's false information, nothing really complicated. You really think you're going to change our minds just because you don't like FUNimation or their remastering processes?

[dbboxkaifan]

I know everyone treasures their precious level sets, but they never looked "Blu-ray" to me.

The point of releasing an old film/series on Blu-ray is to remain all of its detail intact and the exact aspect ratio too.

Just imagine if Disney released classics such as Pinocchio and TLK on Blu-ray all DNR'd and cropped 16x9 AR, they did the proper remasterisation and glad they didn't try to modernise it because it'd have been horrible for both sides.

I'm not too fussed about DBZ on BD as I have the US Dragon Boxes Z but people that don't have them are stuck to 16x9 releases only.

[Levlik]

Actually, funnily enough, a lot of Disney Blu Ray releases are cropped. I know The Great Mouse Detective's Blu Ray was cropped from 1.66:1 to 1.75:1 (Not too terribly noticeable but cropped is still cropped) and if I recall right, Robin Hood is like the DB movie cases where it was initially animated in 4:3 and cropped for 16:9 in its theatrical release. Robin Hood's DVNR is really ugly, too, and looks out of focus a lot of the time. Really disappointed in that release, but that's neither here nor there.

I like my Blu Ray releases as un-tampered with as they possibly can be. Film grain is an essential part to the look of any animated feature from the 20th century, I think. In my opinion, the only thing that would have made the Level sets better is if FUNi had a better film generation for the show, but otherwise, I think it was a perfect release.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Tbh. It's only Dragon Box 1,2 and I think 4 that's hard to find at a reasonable price. I found the rest £30 each brand new. But I have no interest in them personally. And I think this release is an adequate relases to accommodate for them missing sets.

[SupremeSSJ]

Tbh. It's only Dragon Box 1,2 and I think 4 that's hard to find at a reasonable price. I found the rest £30 each brand new. But I have no interest in them personally. And I think this release is an adequate relases to accommodate for them missing sets.

3,6, and 7 are up there to. Then u got to think amazon is the only place that has them, and most fans wouldn't want this release to fill in missing Dragon Boxes, they would just hunt down singles.

[kidglov3s]

Actually, funnily enough, a lot of Disney Blu Ray releases are cropped. I know The Great Mouse Detective's Blu Ray was cropped from 1.66:1 to 1.75:1 (Not too terribly noticeable but cropped is still cropped) and if I recall right, Robin Hood is like the DB movie cases where it was initially animated in 4:3 and cropped for 16:9 in its theatrical release. Robin Hood's DVNR is really ugly, too, and looks out of focus a lot of the time. Really disappointed in that release, but that's neither here nor there.

I'm right with you for taking issue with Disney's revisionist practices, but the aspect ratio is one of the few things they've been getting consistently right, imo.

On Blu-ray.com a week or two ago,

In response to: "Weren't The Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood, and The Jungle Book originally released that way as well?"
I posted "Their OAR is 1.75:1, as verified by theatrical pressbooks. Like most titles in the 80s/90s the mattes were opened for video releases. People argue "there's image being lost", in the neverending quest to I suppose deny that 1.75-1.85:1 are legitimate aspect ratios because 999/1000 times no matter what it is there's always image intended to be matted with these ratios."

In response to: "No, Robin Hood has an OAR of 1.67:1 while The Sword in the Stone and The Jungle Book have an OAR of 1.75:1."
I posted: "On the bottom of the left page of this image from the pressbook it's noted Robin Hood is 1.75:1 too.

Spoiler:

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And in response to: "4:3 "Full Screen" presentation with the picture zoomed in = losing art and picture."
I posted: "That's the fundamental confusion surrounding the 1.75:1 films. Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood, Jungle Book, etc are widescreen films, intended to be seen in the 1.75:1 aspect ratio. Like most films shot in flat ratios, there is additional picture above and below the intended aspect ratio. Most of these films are opened up at the top and the bottom for presentation in 1.33:1, revealing 'more' 'art and picture', but that area is not part of the intended composition and ideally would be covered up or cut out in an accurate presentation.

OAR is about the correct intended composition, not getting the most 'picture' possible."

I think it's necessary to defend the legitimacy of flat aspect ratios, because that is how such films were intended to be seen, not open matte. I believe that just as DBZ's 1.33:1 aspect ratio should be respected the flat Disney films' 1.75:1 aspect ratio should also be respected.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Tbh. It's only Dragon Box 1,2 and I think 4 that's hard to find at a reasonable price. I found the rest £30 each brand new. But I have no interest in them personally. And I think this release is an adequate relases to accommodate for them missing sets.

3,6, and 7 are up there to. Then u got to think amazon is the only place that has them, and most fans wouldn't want this release to fill in missing Dragon Boxes, they would just hunt down singles.

3 maybe, but I bump into 6&7 quite a lot.
Ahh, yes I forgot about the aspect raito lol

[JackyBoi99]

Beginning of last year was pretty much the very last opportunity to get all the dragon boxes for under $100 except for dragon box 2. I got 1,3 and 4 for only $45. The rest were $30 and number 2 was $225 haha

[kidglov3s]

R1 Dragon Box 2 added to all 35 comparisons.

http://minus.com/i/31rIEEQ4iUgR

Spoiler:

[samuraix123]

Hey guys, Do you think each release that comes out will be $16? That'd be cool beans if they were. lol

[Kendamu]

Hey guys, Do you think each release that comes out will be $16? That'd be cool beans if they were. lol

I'm not in such a hurry that I can't wait for their eventual price drop. I feel like maybe the first few are being sold for cheap and the rest at a higher price to trap completions into paying more.

[ChibiGoku]

R1 Dragon Box 2 added to all 35 comparisons.

*snip*

You know, the more I look at those images, the more I question how anyone could say they look good. Some shots do, I admit, look better than others, but in every single shot, you can tell the video has been "smudged" or smeared, creating this rather artificial water color effect. The lines and coloring around the characters have this weird curvy effect that shouldn't be there. Also, it seems the filtering is more powerful in some scenes than others, as some shots just look absolutely horrifying.

[samuraix123]

Hey guys, Do you think each release that comes out will be $16? That'd be cool beans if they were. lol

I'm not in such a hurry that I can't wait for their eventual price drop. I feel like maybe the first few are being sold for cheap and the rest at a higher price to trap completions into paying more.

Sounds about right buddy. As long as they keep pumping them out for $16 bucks every time I'll be more than happy to keep buying them.

[ABED]

Hey guys, Do you think each release that comes out will be $16? That'd be cool beans if they were. lol

I'm not in such a hurry that I can't wait for their eventual price drop. I feel like maybe the first few are being sold for cheap and the rest at a higher price to trap completions into paying more.

That doesn't typically happen. Usually the price stays the same or drops with subsequent volumes.

[Gutsxgoku]

Hey guys, Do you think each release that comes out will be $16? That'd be cool beans if they were. lol

I'm not in such a hurry that I can't wait for their eventual price drop. I feel like maybe the first few are being sold for cheap and the rest at a higher price to trap completions into paying more.

That doesn't typically happen. Usually the price stays the same or drops with subsequent volumes.

Amazon current price for season 4 - http://www.amazon.com/Dragonball-Z-Seas ... d_cp_mov_1 - I'm sure it will drop below $20 before release though..

[ABED]

It always drops at the time of release.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Not sure if it's been posted, but here's Madman's cover for the 1st season:

http://www.madman.co.nz/catalogue/view/ ... n-1-bluray

[eledoremassis02]

Goku's foot! Now we can see it in all it's irregular glory '

Not bad, but like with the logo, I think it will be a bit distracting with it's repetitiveness when you link all the covers together. I know why they didn't do it this way, but it would have been cool if the slip cover (atleast first print or maybe right stuff exclusive) was just the raw art and all the logos and things were on the regular cover/spine

Edit: I just realized this is not a slip cover these dont come with them I'd assume? I like the spine art better in this version

[TheGmGoken]

Two things.
1. Who drew Nappa? He looks awful. Like a gag character
2. Anyone realize Goku's master logo is color yellow like in Db instead of white?

[kidglov3s]

On Blu-ray forum someone noted that the images on Madman's site differ in character from what we've seen with the US sets. I'm interested to see what this will look like.