Unpopular DB opinions

[Hades]

Didn't like Bills sound in Battle of Gods. If there was going to be something so scary that Vegeta would refuse to fight him, they should have made him sound like Ra in Stargate (as in, Utterly terrifying).

That said, Randy Blythe would be my choice for an English Dub voice of Bills.

[RocktheDragon]

Didn't like Bills sound in Battle of Gods. If there was going to be something so scary that Vegeta would refuse to fight him, they should have made him sound like Ra in Stargate (as in, Utterly terrifying).

That said, Randy Blythe would be my choice for an English Dub voice of Bills.

I think you touched on why I liked the voice actor choice for Beerus. It seemed fitting in a way that someone so terrifying and so powerful would be harbor a kind of silly personality. The movie wasn't supposed to be taken that seriously to begin with so I believe they made the right choice on the characterization of Beerus.

[Hades]

I understand that dragonball is pretty light, but it's just that Bills voice didn't fit for a being that could wipe out suns with a thought and absolutely terrify vegeta. A voice for such a deity should be considered like a herald of the end of everything (Say what you will about Stargate, but the voice for Ra is what I would imagine for Bills, right down to the alien language).

[TheDevilsCorpse]

That's just it. Dragon Ball just isn't the kind of series that does what you're looking for (though I guess the dubs could technically do whatever they want). The strongest characters are often the ones that don't usually seem all that terrifying, threatening or really anything like that.

A relatively polite, purple, break dancing cat who loves to eat and just happens to be a god that governs destruction does not need to sound like some sort of demonic-death-god-thing. Giving Beerus that sort of voice not only seems unfitting, but with his personality being what it is, it would actually go against the entire point of his character, thus ruining him in my opinion.

[TheGmGoken]

Db does exactly what I'm looking for but with surprises. That sounds better Imo. I like how Db is format. With all the dark trailers the whole movie took me by surprise. But it had everything I expect. Just badly executed.

[dbgtFO]

I thought Beerus' voice was good and it sounded sinister enough, when it needed to.

[Hades]

I'm in agreement with BFS to an extent on the idea of powerful villains being surprising. However, Ra in Stargate also emanated that feeling. Could you imagine a long-haired androgynous man with that sort of voice and being the sun god?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But that's objectively wrong. Do you mean that it's your most favorite? Because it's my 2nd favorite saiyan form, after "false" Super Saiyan from M4.

I already stated it's my favorite form. I mean that fighting wise(Not killing) it's the best overall.

Stronger than SSJ
Not strain on body.

Seems pretty good to me. I would say SSG is one the overall best but it's pretty much just like SSJ3. Replace the strain with the timelimit. Now Goku keeping the power was just for Goku(And Vegeta most likely) since the original SSG didn't keep it.

Super Saiyan 2 is probably has strain on the body, since it brings back the impure heart.

But even if it doesn't have strain, you are still wrong, except if you include only the manga forms. Because Super Saiyan with God power is the best Saiyan form in every way. It doesn't have any strain on the body, it keeps the heart pure, it doesn't have any time-limit, and it grants almost the highest level of power (it's insignificantly below SSGod, which has a time-limit smaller than SS3's).

[ABED]

Super Saiyan 2... brings back the impure heart.

Where'd you get the idea?

[TheGmGoken]

But that's objectively wrong. Do you mean that it's your most favorite? Because it's my 2nd favorite saiyan form, after "false" Super Saiyan from M4.

I already stated it's my favorite form. I mean that fighting wise(Not killing) it's the best overall.

Stronger than SSJ
Not strain on body.

Seems pretty good to me. I would say SSG is one the overall best but it's pretty much just like SSJ3. Replace the strain with the timelimit. Now Goku keeping the power was just for Goku(And Vegeta most likely) since the original SSG didn't keep it.

Super Saiyan 2 is probably has strain on the body, since it brings back the impure heart.

But even if it doesn't have strain, you are still wrong, except if you include only the manga forms. Because Super Saiyan with God power is the best Saiyan form in every way. It doesn't have any strain on the body, it keeps the heart pure, it doesn't have any time-limit, and it grants almost the highest level of power (it's insignificantly below SSGod, which has a time-limit smaller than SS3's).

Ssj with god power isn't a form. Its just SSJ. Goku kept the power up. The other SSG did not. I'm talking about the average form. Goku keeping Ssg power isn't average. Its Goku being so much of a great fighter he accidentally kept it.

[TheGmGoken]

Super Saiyan 2... brings back the impure heart.

Where'd you get the idea?

(Sorry for double post. On my phone)
I guess he means SSJ2Kid Gohan. Who was pissed off

[ABED]

Super Saiyan 2... brings back the impure heart.

Where'd you get the idea?

(Sorry for double post. On my phone)
I guess he means SSJ2Kid Gohan. Who was pissed off

I know that he was pissed off but what's the whole thing about "impure heart?"

[thatdbzguy]

I know that he was pissed off but what's the whole thing about "impure heart?"

He's probably talking about how he wanted to make Cell suffer.

[ABED]

I know that he was pissed off but what's the whole thing about "impure heart?"

He's probably talking about how he wanted to make Cell suffer.

I got that, I wasn't asking about the particular instance, I'm asking what this "Super Saiyan 2 is probably has strain on the body, since it brings back the impure heart" means.

[TheGmGoken]

I know that he was pissed off but what's the whole thing about "impure heart?"

He's probably talking about how he wanted to make Cell suffer.

I got that, I wasn't asking about the particular instance, I'm asking what this "Super Saiyan 2 is probably has strain on the body, since it brings back the impure heart" means.

I think he means SSJ2 isn't mastered yet.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Super Saiyan 2... brings back the impure heart.

Where'd you get the idea?

Goku has a sharp look in his eyes all the time, and look at Gohan against Cell. Besides, they only mastered regular SS, and since SS3 still has ki drain & affects personality, it's logical to assume that SS2 brings back the same disadvantages that SS had before mastering it, since no one ever mastered SS2.

[TheGmGoken]

Super Saiyan 2... brings back the impure heart.

Where'd you get the idea?

Goku has a sharp look in his eyes all the time, and look at Gohan against Cell. Besides, they only mastered regular SS, and since SS3 still has ki drain & affects personality, it's logical to assume that SS2 brings back the same disadvantages that SS had before mastering it, since no one ever mastered SS2.

I doubt his heart was impure though. Maybe it's just SSJ2's design. Can you imagine Goku with his regular eyes on SSJ3 or 2? It would look very strange. Also don't think you can "master" SSJ2 or 3. That or mastering the forms(Specifically 2) isn't the same results as MSSJ.

Also I come to find out. That I LIKE most of DB's fanfiction. Which is very unpopular here.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I doubt his heart was impure though. Maybe it's just SSJ2's design. Can you imagine Goku with his regular eyes on SSJ3 or 2? It would look very strange. Also don't think you can "master" SSJ2 or 3. That or mastering the forms(Specifically 2) isn't the same results as MSSJ.

If Goku never has round eyes as a SS2 & SS3 (it is stated that SS3 grants a more calm heart BTW), he isn't normal. Also, mastering Super Saiyan eliminates the strain on the body, and the malicious heart. If SS2 isn't mastered, then it should put strain on the body, and affect the personality, like SS3 does.

Plus, every time after a rage boost, Gohan would return to normal after a while. But as a SS2, the rage boost goes into passive mode, and turns him into a merciless torturer? I don't think that this is a pure heart there.

And if you want to count BoG, Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta didn't go SS2 (or SS3 & Ultimate for those that can) in the ritual that requires good hearted Saiyans.

Ssj with god power isn't a form. Its just SSJ. Goku kept the power up. The other SSG did not. I'm talking about the average form. Goku keeping Ssg power isn't average. Its Goku being so much of a great fighter he accidentally kept it.

Super Saiyan (Full Power) is still superior to Super Saiyan 2 (and everything else) in everything but raw power. And SSGod helps to surpass every for in raw power as well.

[TheGmGoken]

The form isn't natural. Goku absorbed it. I mean natural form. Also we all know that Ssj was use in ritual cause it's iconic and they could't digitized Gohan to be mystic

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The form isn't natural. Goku absorbed it. I mean natural form.

Still, Super Saiyan is better.

Also we all know that Ssj was use in ritual cause it's iconic and they could't digitized Gohan to be mystic

We don't know that for a fact. Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, and Ultimate are shown to make the Saiyans more evil than they are, and since everyone has mastered Super Saiyan at that point, having them both using their purest forms & giving as much energy as possible makes more sense.