Cooler's Revenge Soundtrack?

[Gutsxgoku]

Does anyone know why it's mostly comprised of random bands on the english soundtrack? I'm not asking for opinions on it. I would just like to know why so much of it is bands like Finger Eleven, Drowning Pool, etc.. As opposed to typical Faulcner scores. Does anyone know Funi's actual reason for it? Obviously I'm only curious because it is the only movie that has this type of background music.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Does anyone know why it's mostly comprised of random bands on the english soundtrack? I'm not asking for opinions on it. I would just like to know why so much of it is bands like Finger Eleven, Drowning Pool, etc.. As opposed to typical Faulcner scores. Does anyone know Funi's actual reason for it? Obviously I'm only curious because it is the only movie that has this type of background music.

DBZ Movies 4, 5, 8, 10 and both of the TV specials use "real bands" as well. I believe (DBZ) Movie 5 is the only one to have its soundtrack entirely comprised of songs, whereas (DBZ) Movies 4 &. 8 feature music from Faulconer and Menza as well, while the TV Specials and (DBZ) Movie 10 also have original compositions.

I think they were doing this just because they were movies and they wanted to really hype them up and make them feel just a little bit more special. I remember FUNi really pushed this hard in their marketing for DBZ Movies 4 &. 5 and had their use of "real bands" as big selling points. The trailers even had something to the effect of, "Featuring music from Deftones, Disturbed, and a host of other hot new artists." They were probably trying to appeal to older kids as well, and make DBZ look like more than just a silly after-school cartoon. The TV specials came out at a similar time to DBZ Movies 4 &. 5, so I guess it's not surprising that they went a route with them in terms of music. The 'Trunks TV Special' even had its own CD, if I recall correctly. I feel like DBZ Movies 8 &. 10 kind of speak for themselves. They hype surrounding the character of Broly seems like enough of a reason to justify them giving those films the "real band treatment".

Here are some of the trailers I mentioned earlier, by the way. Soooo nostalgic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bScOW9a1NUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Ww9KYfe_A

[Gutsxgoku]

Does anyone know why it's mostly comprised of random bands on the english soundtrack? I'm not asking for opinions on it. I would just like to know why so much of it is bands like Finger Eleven, Drowning Pool, etc.. As opposed to typical Faulcner scores. Does anyone know Funi's actual reason for it? Obviously I'm only curious because it is the only movie that has this type of background music.

DBZ Movies 4, 5, 8, 10 and both of the TV specials use "real bands" as well. I believe (DBZ) Movie 5 is the only one to have its soundtrack entirely comprised of songs, whereas (DBZ) Movies 4 &. 8 feature music from Faulconer and Menza as well, while the TV Specials and (DBZ) Movie 10 also have original compositions.

I think they were doing this just because they were movies and they wanted to really hype them up and make them feel just a little bit more special. I remember FUNi really pushed this hard in their marketing for DBZ Movies 4 &. 5 and had their use of "real bands" as big selling points. The trailers even had something to the effect of, "Featuring music from Deftones, Disturbed, and a host of other hot new artists." They were probably trying to appeal to older kids as well, and make DBZ look like more than just a silly after-school cartoon. The TV specials came out at a similar time to DBZ Movies 4 &. 5, so I guess it's not surprising that they went a route with them in terms of music. The 'Trunks TV Special' even had its own CD, if I recall correctly. I feel like DBZ Movies 8 &. 10 kind of speak for themselves. They hype surrounding the character of Broly seems like enough of a reason to justify them giving those films the "real band treatment".

Here are some of the trailers I mentioned earlier, by the way. Soooo nostalgic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bScOW9a1NUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Ww9KYfe_A

That's AWESOME! Too bad I hate Lord slug... That is interesting though considering I never noticed those bands on any other films other than Cooler's Revenge/Lord Slug.

[kei17]

This "real band" nonsense is one of the worst things FUNi have ever done to Dragon Ball for making it harrrdcooooreee DeeeBeeZeeeee.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Do you really have to come into a thread for someone looking for why the music was used, much less one that already stated they 'don't want opinions' (presumably on if you liked or didn't like said music) just to vent it again though? Some people liked it, some didn't, it's no longer the way you HAVE to watch the dub if you watch the dub at all - it's a moot point nowadays. That and, it may have aided into the 'hardcore' stuff, but uh...pretty sure a show where people are going to be knocked through moutains was gonna be treated as such by some fans no matter how it was presented.

Anyway, it's pretty much what DragonBoxZTheMovies said - it was all about hype, and since DBZ was pretty big at the time, I'm sure it fed back into some advertising for those bands as well. I know that's where I first heard Disturbed and Deftones and got into their music at any rate.

[Hellspawn28]

Back then, pretty much any movie that music from popular rock bands in their soundtrack. DBZ was popular and music artist know that kids would buy their albums if they like the music in the film. Worst part of that logic is that Disturbed Sickness ablum had a parental advisory logo on it which means kids can't buy it without their parents . I don't know why DBZ Movie 10 had rock music since I would imagine that putting rock music in movies died out by then.

[KentalSSJ6]

The only song I clearly recognize is "The Game" by Disturbed. All the other songs are unknown to me.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I don't know why DBZ Movie 10 had rock music since I would imagine that putting rock music in movies died out by then.

Yeah, that one always seemed to stick out a bit, especially since I think it was all from just one band that hadn't been featured in previous films, and it didn't really seem...I dunno. In the previous films where they did this with the score, the music was loud enough to be noticeable and it played up the scenes (again, whether you agree with them 'working' with the scenes is one thing, but that's definitely what they were going for at the time anyway). In movie 10 though, it just sort-of seemed there, phoned in, no matter how good the song was.

My theory has always been that it was either to make it fit with the first Broly movie but then for some reason it didn't work out to do again for movie 11, or the band was someone that a FUNi employee personally knew and worked out a deal of some sort.

[Hellspawn28]

I remember in the 90's and early 2000's that pretty much any popular movie had a rock music soundtrack to release along with it. The Pokemon and Digimon had soundtracks with pop music in them. Some movies still have them, but not as common as they used to be.

[RocktheDragon]

Do you really have to come into a thread for someone looking for why the music was used, much less one that already stated they 'don't want opinions' (presumably on if you liked or didn't like said music) just to vent it again though? Some people liked it, some didn't, it's no longer the way you HAVE to watch the dub if you watch the dub at all - it's a moot point nowadays. That and, it may have aided into the 'hardcore' stuff, but uh...pretty sure a show where people are going to be knocked through moutains was gonna be treated as such by some fans no matter how it was presented.

Anyway, it's pretty much what DragonBoxZTheMovies said - it was all about hype, and since DBZ was pretty big at the time, I'm sure it fed back into some advertising for those bands as well. I know that's where I first heard Disturbed and Deftones and got into their music at any rate.

I don't see any problems with Kei's personal reflections on the band music for the movies. He just stated an observation and moved on, no need to call him out on it.

Whatever the case for the music in some of the DBZ movie dubs I remember being young and feeling that the music was really out of place. I didn't care for the genre of music that was in the films or the particular bands for that matter so that probably contributed to my overall feelings of it. Doesn't surprise me that a company like Funimation did something like that in that time period since as others have noted it was a pretty common practice for anime soundtracks and soundtracks in general.

[Freeza Soldier #156]

I don't see any problems with Kei's personal reflections on the band music for the movies. He just stated an observation and moved on, no need to call him out on it.

Except, as Gyt stated, it says right in the original post that Gutsxgoku was simply asking why FUNimation decided to use real bands instead of the usual Faulconer score for some movies and that he wasn't looking for anyone's opinion on whether or not they liked or disliked it. Since Kei's post gave no answer to anything in the original post and was nothing more than his opinion that he disliked it, it was kinda off topic.

As for the topic, it was simply a marketing gimmick. DBZ was the big thing at the time and I assume that particular genre of music and those bands were as well for their target audience. Put them together and you appeal to a humongous group of people.

[Hellspawn28]

Sometimes I feel like the rock music in DBZ Movie 4 and Movie 5 help inspire those DBZ AMV on Youtube.

[kidglov3s]

Sometimes I feel like the rock music in DBZ Movie 4 and Movie 5 help inspire those DBZ AMV on Youtube.

I don't know. I had a fansub in 2000 where in-between Movie 7 and Plan to Eradicate the Saiya-jin there was an AMV of Vegeta cleaning house on Freeza's ship set to Am I Evil by Metallica. It seems like a natural fit and a long running tradition.

I've never watched these movies in English, but I'm curious how this worked out.

[Gutsxgoku]

Sometimes I feel like the rock music in DBZ Movie 4 and Movie 5 help inspire those DBZ AMV on Youtube.

That's one of the reasons I am asking the question... AMV's like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14TAP9zfZJg seem to continue the trend and gain tons of popularity. I was wondering if these films' music choice contributes to so many of those bands being made into DBZ AMV's on YouTube. Again, I don't need opinions on the music or if it fits into the DBZ movies, I am sure there are plenty of other threads for that. And honestly, whether you like the music or not, I think it's a great thing that Funimation made some bands' dreams come true and the fact that it was through DBZ makes it that much better and that's not opinion it's a fact.

[Super Sonic]

With movie 5, a lot of it doesn't sound so great. Some is ok and fits the scene, but not as much as the Japanese music. Movie 4 I've never seen in Japanese but it may be a thing of sounded ok then, but not so much now, kinda like how the Great Wakkorotti cartoons aren't as good when you're an adult, but hilarious as a kid.

On topic of changes, it wasn't just DB that did that with movies. The music from the Transformers movie was rather different than the music used in the series. But we got Dare, The Touch, and Dare to be Stupid out of it, so not so bad.

[kidglov3s]

With movie 5, a lot of it doesn't sound so great. Some is ok and fits the scene, but not as much as the Japanese music. Movie 4 I've never seen in Japanese but it may be a thing of sounded ok then, but not so much now, kinda like how the Great Wakkorotti cartoons aren't as good when you're an adult, but hilarious as a kid.

On topic of changes, it wasn't just DB that did that with movies. The music from the Transformers movie was rather different than the music used in the series. But we got Dare, The Touch, and Dare to be Stupid out of it, so not so bad.

To be fair, Transformers: The Movie was created as a Rock and Roll Adventure, not turned into one decades later. For some reason I assumed these songs were only on the singles, can someone confirm they're carried over to the Double Features? I think I want to see them now.

[dbboxkaifan]

This "real band" nonsense is one of the worst things FUNi have ever done to Dragon Ball for making it harrrdcooooreee DeeeBeeZeeeee.

A while ago I was watching the Bardock TV Special and swapped it to the English dub for a few minutes but that was a huge mistake because the script was inaccurate, added voices were there weren't any in the original and unfitting real band music (would've preferred Faulconer music instead then).

The only part of it t'was Dragon Ball was the video because the rest if you stuck it to something else you wouldn't notice any difference.

[shinmaru]

That rockband crap is the worst that happened to dbz,too much noise.

[Hades]

Honestly, if there was one song I would have used, overall. It would be Raining Blood or South of Heacen for Broly's transformation (would have been nice if Kikuchi got the rights to do a reprise of either song for the Broly Movie).

[Gyt Kaliba]

I sure love how a discussion about this music, even when outlined at the start to please not dissolve into debates about how 'fitting' the music was, always does eventually come around to people complaining about it...even when you no longer have to watch the dub with that score, regardless of if you watch the dub at all. Oy.