Tibits from the Dragon Books?

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Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:24 am

I've heard some interesting new stuff from the Dragon Books (the booklets of the Dragon Boxes), like Cold having more forms, and Gohan losing to Dabra because of his inferior skill. What other new in-universe information are there?
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by Kakarot88 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:30 pm

I've been wondering about this myself, do you know if this same content has been published in any other media?
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by Kaboom » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:31 pm

I've been meaning to do a thorough sweep of my DBZ Dragon Books and make a thread of all the interesting stuff I find, but I haven't gotten around to it. Mayhaps I have a new mini-project for this week.
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:35 pm

Which Dragon Box Z specifically, the US or the original Japanese? They both had Dragon Books.
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by Kakarot88 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:39 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Which Dragon Box Z specifically, the US or the original Japanese? They both had Dragon Books.
My understanding was that the US release was almost a direct translation and therefore because of that it had some awkwardness in its wording and verbiage, but if they are different in terms of content rather than just size and visuals I'd be more interested in whichever has more information.
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by Kaboom » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:48 pm

Yep, all reports I remember say that the seven FUNimation DBZ Dragon Books are pretty much a straight translation of the two Japanese ones.
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:52 pm

Still, it would be illegal to share them as they've got their official releases and I doubt anyone would scan them risking the chance of ruining the pages by doing so.

I personally wouldn't do it, although I did scan a few pages off of RtDE book.
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by helsinkirocks » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:02 pm

Hmm, I don't think anyone here is asking for scans of them, just what new/interesting information was in them.

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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by SaiyaJedi » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:27 pm

I've been working on that (among many other things). For all the Japanese Dragon Boxes. Expect translations.... Eventually.
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by RocktheDragon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:43 pm

I have all of the English Dragon Books but I never suspected any of them of containing any information I hadn't known before. I'll go through them when I have a chance and see if I can find anything. I haven't spent too much time with them even considering I've had them since 2009 and on.
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:17 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I've heard some interesting new stuff from the Dragon Books (the booklets of the Dragon Boxes), like Cold having more forms, and Gohan losing to Dabra because of his inferior skill. What other new in-universe information are there?
According to Herms here:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... ss#p758157

The Dragon Box: The Movies Dragon Book said Broly transformed out of sadness rather than anger. But it doesn't say what he was sad about.
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Re: Tibits from the Dragon Books?

Post by SaiyaJedi » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:03 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I've heard some interesting new stuff from the Dragon Books (the booklets of the Dragon Boxes), like Cold having more forms, and Gohan losing to Dabra because of his inferior skill. What other new in-universe information are there?
According to Herms here:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... ss#p758157

The Dragon Box: The Movies Dragon Book said Broly transformed out of sadness rather than anger. But it doesn't say what he was sad about.
Here's the specific quote:
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I used Toriyama-sensei's design as-is. However, his second-stage form has been arranged to be quite macho. I came up with it through talks with the director, that one should be able to tell his strength from his appearance. I drew him on the sad image that, in contrast to Goku, who becomes a Super Saiyan through the power of rage, Broli's sorrow grows until he runs amok.
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